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fab melo has more talent than aaron gray

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is he any better than Jason Collins?

I would say Gray is different rather than better.

Both players are third string quality centers. Collins is a defensive orientated one and Gray is an offensively orientated player. They serve different purposes.

Collins a defensive specialist you can throw out against bigger front-lines but is a limited offensive player and rebounder. Gray a guy with good hands and footwork in the paint who can give you some role-player level interior scoring and rebounding but is a limited defensive player.

If the price was very low and better alternatives were not available, I would think this is worth pursuing ... but it would clearly be more of a fall-back option because the added-value is here but is fairly small.

agreed, i'm not saying trade sully for him, but if he can be had for cheap he can fill darkos spot and give us a true big

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The thing I like about Gray is he seems to have good hands and knows to position well to get inside passes. Well, I've seen him do that in the playoffs before with CP3, so I guess I'm basing it on very small sample size. But I see good hands there.

I like him, although, I'd rather play Fab Melo at this point. Already a better shot blocker than Gray by basketball instincts alone. Melo also has decent hands.

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The thing I like about Gray is he seems to have good hands and knows to position well to get inside passes. Well, I've seen him do that in the playoffs before with CP3, so I guess I'm basing it on very small sample size. But I see good hands there.

I like him, although, I'd rather play Fab Melo at this point. Already a better shot blocker than Gray by basketball instincts alone. Melo also has decent hands.

melo is just soooo lost on defensive rotations, love his potential and shot blocking but he isn't nba ready this season and maybe not next season

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The thing I like about Gray is he seems to have good hands and knows to position well to get inside passes. Well, I've seen him do that in the playoffs before with CP3, so I guess I'm basing it on very small sample size. But I see good hands there.

I like him, although, I'd rather play Fab Melo at this point. Already a better shot blocker than Gray by basketball instincts alone. Melo also has decent hands.

melo is just soooo lost on defensive rotations, love his potential and shot blocking but he isn't nba ready this season and maybe not next season

I understand that. But so would Gray, while he can pick up rotations he's really slow to recover. What I'm saying I guess is, if we're giving up something to get Gray, unless it's a straight trade for Collins, I'd rather have Melo playing. I understand his deficiencies, but he brings something that Gray wouldn't, the shot blocking. And we don't have to give up a pick or someone else.

But you're right on the rotation thing, here's hoping he can figure it out.

[moiso]

He's a stiff.

[Who]

The thing I like about Gray is he seems to have good hands and knows to position well to get inside passes. Well, I've seen him do that in the playoffs before with CP3, so I guess I'm basing it on very small sample size. But I see good hands there.

I like him, although, I'd rather play Fab Melo at this point. Already a better shot blocker than Gray by basketball instincts alone. Melo also has decent hands.

melo is just soooo lost on defensive rotations, love his potential and shot blocking but he isn't nba ready this season and maybe not next season

I understand that. But so would Gray, while he can pick up rotations he's really slow to recover. What I'm saying I guess is, if we're giving up something to get Gray, unless it's a straight trade for Collins, I'd rather have Melo playing. I understand his deficiencies, but he brings something that Gray wouldn't, the shot blocking. And we don't have to give up a pick or someone else.

But you're right on the rotation thing, here's hoping he can figure it out.

Kris Joseph or a 2nd round pick would be all I would be willing to give up to get Aaron Gray.

I would rather keep Jason Collins than sign Gray. I think Collins is more important / valuable as a defensive specialist than Gray's offensive game is. 

[ScoobyDoo]

This team is built with mostly athleticism and speed right now -
Rondo, Barbosa, Bradley, Jet, Lee, Pierce, Green, Bass, KG
Sully and Collins are kind of plodders.

What we don't have is a big bruiser - outside of Sully when he's at the four. I think this is why we had such high hopes for Darko to be that space eating, enforcer type guy. Not an all star, just someone throwing their weight around for 5-15 minutes a night.

If we get Bradley back healthy, Sully continues to elarn how to thrown muscle around the Reggie Evans does and then we added Aaron Gray for more size, this team would become very, very difficult to beat.

It's not about how good Gray is - it's that he adds what we don't have, and he does it at a decent level for a back up.

He also gave Bynum all he wanted in the playoffs a few years back and he is not afraid of physical contact at all in the paint.

He does have good hands and finishes well around the paint so on this team, if he knows where to go he could get a lot of easy bunnies on our team. I wouldn't be suprised for a guy like him to average 8-4 on our team with limited minutes.   

I'd still keep Collins for now and wouldn't want to give up Joseph just yet. But I'd certainly give a second round pick and cash if that would work.

We need another half decent seven footer this year, much more than we need another second round pick in the mid 40's next draft. 

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This team is built with mostly athleticism and speed right now -
Rondo, Barbosa, Bradley, Jet, Lee, Pierce, Green, Bass, KG
Sully and Collins are kind of plodders.

What we don't have is a big bruiser - outside of Sully when he's at the four. I think this is why we had such high hopes for Darko to be that space eating, enforcer type guy. Not an all star, just someone throwing their weight around for 5-15 minutes a night.

If we get Bradley back healthy, Sully continues to elarn how to thrown muscle around the Reggie Evans does and then we added Aaron Gray for more size, this team would become very, very difficult to beat.

It's not about how good Gray is - it's that he adds what we don't have, and he does it at a decent level for a back up.

He also gave Bynum all he wanted in the playoffs a few years back and he is not afraid of physical contact at all in the paint.

He does have good hands and finishes well around the paint so on this team, if he knows where to go he could get a lot of easy bunnies on our team. I wouldn't be suprised for a guy like him to average 8-4 on our team with limited minutes.   

I'd still keep Collins for now and wouldn't want to give up Joseph just yet. But I'd certainly give a second round pick and cash if that would work.

We need another half decent seven footer this year, much more than we need another second round pick in the mid 40's next draft.

2nd rounder and cash would be great
i would also not give up on joseph yet, nice complete game just depends if next year he can be nba ready (or late this year)