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Offline PhoSita

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2012, 04:34:44 AM »
This year, it's Andy Varejao, by a mile.  He's been playing at an All-Star level.  Best center in the East, ahead of Joakim Noah, Tyson Chandler, and Al Horford.
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Offline The Fawb

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2012, 07:10:13 AM »
This year, it's Andy Varejao, by a mile.  He's been playing at an All-Star level.  Best center in the East, ahead of Joakim Noah, Tyson Chandler, and Al Horford.
This guy knows whats up. check out his stats this year:
http://www.thenbageek.com/players/55-anderson-varejao

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/varejan01.html

He is off the charts. He has a .340 WP/48 (better than Kevin Durant and Lebron) with 4.9 Wins produced. Only KD has produced more wins but that's because he plays more minutes. He's averaging 20 Reb/48. That's insane. One thing to note is that Tyson Chandler is playing very slightly better, with a WP/48 of .354, but they are very close, and AV plays more minutes.

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2012, 12:02:39 PM »
Definitely on the same tier but I think I'd go with Gortat.  KG already brings pretty much everything Varejao does.  Yes he'd provide more rebounding, but if we had 4 above average rebounders in KG, Gortat, Wilcox, and Sullinger that wouldn't be a problem.

Varejao excels at picking up hustle baskets but Gortat is a significantly better offensive player.  Gortat does more things on the court than Varejao, whereas Varejao is elite at things that Gortat can do anyway (rebounding, help defense). 

Although this is one of those cases where we wouldn't know unless we saw both, the way our team is constructed I'd lean toward the interior presence (especially since we don't have one) and the better rim protector/shot blocker.
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Offline celticmania

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2012, 01:10:56 PM »
This is very unlikely and maybe stupid but i'm just throwing this out there:

Celtics:
Josh Smith
Andersen Varejao

Hawks:
Avery Bradley
Jared Sullinger
Fab Melo
Brandon Bass
2013 Celtics 1st round pick

Cavaliers:
Jeff Green
John Jenkins
2015 Celtics 1st round pick
2013 Celtics 2nd round pick
2013 Hawks 2nd round pick

Celtics get Josh Smith who is another star and could put them in the elite category as a team.  They also get Andersen Varejao to help on the boards.

The Hawks may do this if Josh Smith insists on a trade to Boston.  They get some young talent for the future and they can help now too.

The Cavaliers want to trade Varejao.  They want young talent and picks.  Jeff Green would be a perfect fit there and can become a 17 and 7 guy as a starter.  Irving, Waiters, Green, Thompson, Zeller looks like it can be a great line-up in a year or two.

It does seem unrealistic though.

What's our starting lineup after that trade?

We could sign Donte Greene and Chris Andersen

starters:
Rajon Rondo
Courtney Lee
Paul Pierce
Josh Smith
Kevin Garnett

2nd unit:
Leandro Barbosa
Jason Terry
Donte Greene
Chris Wicox
Anderson Varejao

OR

starters:
Rajon Rondo
Paul Pierce
Josh Smith
Kevin Garnett
Andersen Varejao

2nd unit:
Leandro Barbosa
Jason Terry
Courtney Lee
Chris Wilcox
Chris Andersen

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 01:18:34 PM »
We could sign Donte Greene and Chris Andersen
I think Danny Ainge should sign those two players anyway.

Use Darko's vacated spot for Chris Andersen and waive Kris Joseph to sign Donte Greene. The team needs another big wing with legitimate size who can defend his position. Greene offers that. A good third string combo forward who can also play some two if necessary. Nice utility player. Chris Andersen would become the team's main backup center. Jason Collins would remain as third string for when playing against a more physically imposing opponent. Wilcox and Sully would duke it out for the power forward minutes behind Bass.

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Re: Who's better ?
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 10:55:38 PM »
i like the offensive spirit wilcox brings to the table
we still need the other half of the equation
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