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Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2012, 11:38:04 PM »

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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.


And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out. 


I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.

Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.


Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?


Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.

How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.


Can you debate what the Thunder think by their actions and comments?

Their actions?

They're a middle of the road defensive team. (the only reason perkins is there)

Perkins is 4th out of 5 in the thunder's starting lineup for defensive rating.

(extremely rare for a supposed "defensive specialist center")

[if you look up defensive ratings, defensive bigs that are actually good at their craft are generally up at the top, not the case with perkins.]

They're a dynamite offensive team. (perkins contributes nothing to this)

Again, their actions. 


Have they tried to replace or upgrade him?  No

Have they tried to trade him?  No.

Have they complained about him?  No.

Have they amnesty him to keep Harden?  No.

Have they benched him?  No.

Have they praised his leadership?  Yes.

Have they played better since he got there?  Yes.


Again, show me an action or comment that says they are unhappy with Perk or the trade.

Have they tried to replace or upgrade him?  No (You dont know that)

Have they tried to trade him?  No. (Nor do you know this)

Have they complained about him?  No. (Not to reporters, this rarely happens with any player)

Have they amnesty him to keep Harden?  No. (A lot of people with good basketball minds have said they should have.)

Have they benched him?  No. (Only a matter of time.)

Have they praised his leadership?  Yes. (Words are pretty cheap when you are backed up by two superstars. Take durant and westbrook away and those words mean very little when you're wallowing in the lottery.)

Have they played better since he got there?  Yes. (Give me a statistical reason for Perkins' contribution to this, since you're obviously implying that Perkins is the cause for the better record.)


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Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2012, 11:39:00 PM »

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Jeff can't play great in every game .   If he just puts the effort in , the results will come.

I think DOc and the team have finally got though to him.

Bass -SULLY-and Green continue to step up for the Celtics ...this team will be tuff as nails by the time Bradley joins the fray.

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2012, 12:32:09 AM »

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jeff green is awesome.

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2012, 01:33:04 AM »

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Jeff can't play great in every game .   If he just puts the effort in , the results will come.

I think DOc and the team have finally got though to him.

Bass -SULLY-and Green continue to step up for the Celtics ...this team will be tuff as nails by the time Bradley joins the fray.

I love the optimism. I can't wait for Bradley to come back as well!!!

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2012, 03:43:13 AM »

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I'd say so...just had to have patience with him.

People who've had heart surgery don't often hit the ground running.

And take THAT Simmons, lol ;D - looks like your whipping boy IS worth that 40 mil.

Just wait till Doc turns him lose in a starting role...that will be soon. I'm sure the Captain will need some rest soon. The way Jeff Green has played lately, I wouldn't hesitate to start him vs ANYONE in the league, now.

I'm happy for him and BOS. We need that scoring punch and atleticism off the bench, and he's providing that for us.

Just another weapon to throw at MIA.

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2012, 06:57:41 AM »

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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.


And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out. 


I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.

Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.


Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?


Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.

How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.


Can you debate what the Thunder think by their actions and comments?

We don't know what the Thunder are thinking.
We do know that Perkins was one of the biggest factors for them losing to the Heat. He just had no place on the court. I mean his defense on Tim Duncan was poor in the Spurs series, they still made it through. He had terrible statistics and they're still paying him 9 million.
They had to bench him after 5 minutes each finals game because the Heat repeatedly targeted the big fella.
You don't need to know what the Thunder are thinking to realize they would be a better team if they upgraded at Perkins position.
He's just useless AND he's being paid 9 million per year.
They got the NBA finals with him in the starting center spot-and got buried by the Heat and he had a lot to do with that.
I will say that the Heat were a terrible team for Perk to match up against because he couldn't guard anyone on the Heat's small ball line up.

I'll also reiterate that Jeff Green still hasn't proven anything. He's played 4 or 5 good games against some garbage defenders and he's steadily improving but we need a lot more from him. He'll be tested against some decent competition and he's got 75% of the season left to prove himself.

Bottom line is that there is no true winner of this trade until Green plays like this for the rest of the season and playoffs- the heart surgery has set the 'verdict' of this trade back about a year.

Perk has been underwhelming in OKC, but they did make the finals. We've had Jeff Green for 20 games and he's been underwhelming up until the last 5 games.

The jury is still out on this one.
Danny Ainge tried to get CP3 & David West to add to KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. Just Imagine if the stars had aligned...

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2012, 07:07:10 AM »

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Good game last night, let's hope so, we need him dare I say...

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2012, 07:45:56 AM »

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the late but much appreciated arrival Jeff's confidence and the teams confidence in him, cleaning out for him to showcase his talents is what the whole Celtic nation has been waiting to see.

He showed  signs of life here and there , but these past 5 games has been a big turnaround for him.

Green ,Sully, Wilcox and Bass have to step up no matter who is in there if this team is going anywhere.

fingers crossed :)
 

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2012, 07:54:52 AM »

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is it possible to have a thread about jeff green not turn into an analysis of perk? seriously...this is so 2010. jeff's been playing great the past bunch of games, and i think he's finally gotten comfortable with his role = attacking when he's in. if true, that is absolutely awesome. he has the physical and mental attributes to be a really good player, but has always tried to blend in wherever he has played.

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2012, 08:10:02 AM »

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is it possible to have a thread about jeff green not turn into an analysis of perk? seriously...this is so 2010. jeff's been playing great the past bunch of games, and i think he's finally gotten comfortable with his role = attacking when he's in. if true, that is absolutely awesome. he has the physical and mental attributes to be a really good player, but has always tried to blend in wherever he has played.

my bad.


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Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2012, 08:19:04 AM »

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Maybe... I don't wanna get my hopes up though. Everytime I do with this guy, he puts up a dud. So I'm just gonna wait it out.

0 rebounds how's that? I could have stole one after 7 decades of life. He has potential but is that the West Coast type?

Re: is Green finally turning the corner?
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2012, 08:24:19 AM »

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Yeah, I think he is, he will show more constant flashes throughout the season.

And about that idea of PP starting at SG, I'm not buying it because it will create a further gridlock at the 2, even greater when Bradley comes back.

 

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