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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2012, 10:22:41 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out. I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
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jdz101
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2012, 10:28:14 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
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Bench: Harrison Barnes // Eric Bledsoe // Enes Kanter // Kris Humphries // Avery Bradley // Courtney Lee // Antawn Jamison
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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2012, 10:31:07 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden? Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2012, 10:41:12 PM » |
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Green is looking to be playing at the level that we have seen in the past with the Thunder. The Celtics need and will be better off if he continues to play at that level.
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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2012, 10:48:00 PM » |
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While I'm ranting... I don't get why people are down on Courtney Lee either. The dude is only getting 5 shots a night. What exactly is someone supposed to do when he's getting 5 shots a night? He's shooting 46% and is (until Bradley comes back at least) our best defensive guard. A lot of that comes down to role. Terry and Barbosa are both shooting very well. We have too many interchangeable mediocre guards on this team. Can't wait until we can start making moves.
I think you might end up being disappointed again. Danny's not going to make a move just for the sake of it, and if this team starts to hit a groove soon, there's a good chance this will be the team we see headed into the playoffs.
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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2012, 10:50:00 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
I don't think the Harden/Perkins saga is over. It's likely they'll move him soon by using Jeremy Lamb or Perry Jones+ that Raptors pick. They are solid at every position except Perkins spot now that Martin is filling that scoring role off the bench. Only other potential outcome is that they keep the Raptors pick and draft a big man to replace Perkins. Problem is that moulding a draftee into a solid defensive stopper in the NBA takes years and the Thunder want to win now as their two superstars enter their prime. Giving up that lottery pick and Jeremy Lamb+ Perk will almost certainly get them a better player- even if they have to throw Jones or Collison or Reggie Jackson in to get someone like Verajao. The other side to this Green vs Perk argument is that we need a full season from Green to see who really 'won' this trade. He's having a solid stretch but he's been guarded by bums. I read people saying he's a starting caliber SF in this league but he struggles against starting caliber SF defenders and has so far been good against poor to- mediocre bench defenders. If he were a starting caliber SF he wouldn't be getting wide open corner threes or matching up against scrubs like Spencer Hawes for 20 minutes a game. Jeff's getting there but he needs to prove it in a long playoff stretch against the second units of the NBA before we start calling him a starting caliber SF.
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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2012, 10:50:48 PM » |
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Green is looking to be playing at the level that we have seen in the past with the Thunder. The Celtics need and will be better off if he continues to play at that level.
Wait isn't he a sub 50% FG% player on the Thunder? He's incredibly efficient in the past few games.
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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2012, 10:54:56 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
I don't think the Harden/Perkins saga is over. It's likely they'll move him soon by using Jeremy Lamb or Perry Jones+ that Raptors pick. They are solid at every position except Perkins spot now that Martin is filling that scoring role off the bench.
Only other potential outcome is that they keep the Raptors pick and draft a big man to replace Perkins. Problem is that moulding a draftee into a solid defensive stopper in the NBA takes years and the Thunder want to win now as their two superstars enter their prime. Giving up that lottery pick and Jeremy Lamb+ Perk will almost certainly get them a better player- even if they have to throw Jones or Collison or Reggie Jackson in to get someone like Verajao.
The other side to this Green vs Perk argument is that we need a full season from Green to see who really 'won' this trade. He's having a solid stretch but he's been guarded by bums.
I read people saying he's a starting caliber SF in this league but he struggles against starting caliber SF defenders and has so far been good against poor to- mediocre bench defenders.
If he were a starting caliber SF he wouldn't be getting wide open corner threes or matching up against scrubs like Spencer Hawes for 20 minutes a game.
Jeff's getting there but he needs to prove it in a long playoff stretch against the second units of the NBA before we start calling him a starting caliber SF.
Love it. Every move, action and comment from the Thunder say they are completely happy with Perk and fans still think they are bidding their time to get rid of him.
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« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2012, 10:55:35 PM » |
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Green is looking to be playing at the level that we have seen in the past with the Thunder. The Celtics need and will be better off if he continues to play at that level.
Wait isn't he a sub 50% FG% player on the Thunder?
He's incredibly efficient in the past few games.
In fewer minutes.
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PG - Ty Lawson // SG - Vince Carter // SF - Arron Afflalo // PF - Chris Bosh // C - Demarcus Cousins
Bench: Harrison Barnes // Eric Bledsoe // Enes Kanter // Kris Humphries // Avery Bradley // Courtney Lee // Antawn Jamison
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jdz101
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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2012, 10:57:34 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.
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PG - Ty Lawson // SG - Vince Carter // SF - Arron Afflalo // PF - Chris Bosh // C - Demarcus Cousins
Bench: Harrison Barnes // Eric Bledsoe // Enes Kanter // Kris Humphries // Avery Bradley // Courtney Lee // Antawn Jamison
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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2012, 10:58:38 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.
Can you debate what the Thunder think by their actions and comments?
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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2012, 10:59:33 PM » |
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Jeff Green has played well in 3-4 straight games. Its not the first time he has ever done that.
But let's take a chill pill. If Green has proven anything over his 5 years in the league its that he is extremely capable of disappearing for 2-4 games after playing a handful of good games in a row.
Actually, he is famous for that.
Green's role on this team will be that of 6th man until Pierce retires. Let's let him get used to that and let him perform admirably in that role for a long consistent stretch before saying that he has turned a corner in either this season or in his career.
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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2012, 11:02:36 PM » |
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been awesome watching green play over the last week. If he keeps it up will defs be in 6th man of the year race (crawford is clearly the leader atm)
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2012, 11:24:04 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.
Can you debate what the Thunder think by their actions and comments?
Their actions? They're a middle of the road defensive team. (the only reason perkins is there) Ibaka is the best shot blocker in the league. Perkins is 4th out of 5 in the thunder's starting lineup for defensive rating. (extremely rare for a supposed "defensive specialist center") [if you look up defensive ratings, defensive bigs that are actually good at their craft are generally up at the top, not the case with perkins.] They're a dynamite offensive team. (perkins contributes nothing to this)
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PG - Ty Lawson // SG - Vince Carter // SF - Arron Afflalo // PF - Chris Bosh // C - Demarcus Cousins
Bench: Harrison Barnes // Eric Bledsoe // Enes Kanter // Kris Humphries // Avery Bradley // Courtney Lee // Antawn Jamison
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2012, 11:30:45 PM » |
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lets face it. OKC got fleeced.
And yet, they are perfectly happy with how it turned out.
I hope Green keeps up this play level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Only a matter of time before perkins goes to the bench and collison gets the nod.
Just like it was only a matter of time before the amnesty Perk so they could resign Harden?
Or maybe they will just keep playing the way they have since they made that trade and have had great team success.
How much of a contribution perkins has to that team success is debatable at best.
Can you debate what the Thunder think by their actions and comments?
Their actions?
They're a middle of the road defensive team. (the only reason perkins is there)
Perkins is 4th out of 5 in the thunder's starting lineup for defensive rating.
(extremely rare for a supposed "defensive specialist center")
[if you look up defensive ratings, defensive bigs that are actually good at their craft are generally up at the top, not the case with perkins.]
They're a dynamite offensive team. (perkins contributes nothing to this)
Again, their actions. Have they tried to replace or upgrade him? No Have they tried to trade him? No. Have they complained about him? No. Have they amnesty him to keep Harden? No. Have they benched him? No. Have they praised his leadership? Yes. Have they played better since he got there? Yes. Again, show me an action or comment that says they are unhappy with Perk or the trade.
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