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Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 08:30:40 PM »

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You see I don't see Williams as a perimeter 4. I see him like Jeff Green as a larger 3. Actually I see a lot of similarities between the two players.

I was hopeful of Derrick Williams being able to handle the three when he came into the NBA but he has looked completely lost on both ends of the court whenever I have seen him play there. No idea how to play effective perimeter defense or how to play to his strengths offensively.

I thought Derrick Williams could become a Paul Pierce type weapon at the three. That he had enough quickness to defend the position and that he could use his size/strength to cause major matchup problems in the low to mid post areas and had a legitimate three point shot to boot. That he could become a Pierce-like scorer as a power three.

But after seeing how lost Williams is at the three for Minnesota, I don't think that is going to happen so I would be looking at him now as a power forward. He has been a lot more comfortable there. He better understands where his scoring opportunities are coming from and he plays better defense there.

I think his future in the NBA will be as an undersized quick PF.
I think his future in the NBA is pretty dismal actually. He's not a 4 and he just doesn't have the skill set to be a starting three. He's a tweener in every sense of the word and will probably have an off the bench career which will end sometime before he is 30.

Just one man's opinion. Never thought that much of him really.
Al Harrington type? Or even worse?
I think he would be lucky to ever reach the level of play of Al Harrington.

I was thinking more like Hakim Warrick
Yikes ...

I am looking at bad case scenarios (not worst case) for Williams as a slightly above average backup PF. Say a 10th-12th level backup out of the 30 primary backup PFs in the league.

I think a guy with his jump-shooting and physical talent should be able to carve out at least that much of a career for himself. I think the early signs are decent enough for him as a defender/rebounder. I think that combined with his shooting ability should allow him to be a valued rotation player as a slightly above average backup PF. As a bad case scenario.

I think Derrick Williams has enough physical strength to be more competitive defensively than guys like Hakim Warrick and Jeff Green where defensively. He can matchup better against stronger opponents than those frail combo forwards could. Plus, he seems to be a better rebounder than both of them. Below average but close enough to average not to cause serious issues (especially when he is pulling his opposing PF away from the defensive boards with his shooting threat). As he gets more experience defensively, I think Williams should be a decent defender/rebounder. Probably a bit below average but competitive enough.

I am still hoping Derrick Williams figures out how to be more effective as as scorer. He could cause real matchup problems at either forward spot. Similar to Beasley although not as gifted. Hopefully less of a head case but early signs say he has his own mental problems. Albeit a different kind.

Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2012, 09:12:45 AM »

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I read where the TWolves wanted to trade a package of Williams, Pekovic and parts and a pick to LA for Gasol. Now, I can see where LA wouldn't want Pekovic since they have Howard but if ever the C's could get in on a three way there where

LA gets Williams, Bass, parts from Minny and a pick from Boston and Minnesota

Minny gets Gasol

Boston gets Pekovic

I would be all for that.

Boston could start Pekovic alongside KG at the 4 with Pierce, Bradley and Rondo and still have Wilcox, Sully, Green, Jet, Lee and Barbosa coming off the bench.

Not a bad idea in principle,

but

Boston isn't giving up enough to get Pekovic > then bass and a 1st rd pick (maybe make it 2 1sts)

LA would have to see Williams as there SF of the future. Figuring he could back up Bass and Metta at the 3 and 4. Then start at the 3 next year. I also would have to think ideally Dantoni would want to have a player with better 3pt range at the 3 or the 4 then bass or williams.


Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2012, 09:23:46 AM »

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swell, another young player not living up to the hype and pushing for a trade because they blame their lack of court time on something other than talent (or Doc not playing them ;) )

Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2012, 09:47:24 AM »

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Derrick Williams has more physical and technical talent.

Gotta be concerned about what is between his ears at this point though.

He doesn't have an NBA position. Best case he'd be a volume attempts and points guy on a bad team. Short term, he's not of much use to a contenting team with a legit rotation unless they're extremely thin at the 3 / 4 and have a strong interior rim protector to make up for his inability to defend.

As for Pekovic, you simply have to believe that his league value is higher than Bass and a mid-to-late 1st in a weak draft. Guy is a beast. 

Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2012, 10:44:42 AM »

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I see Williams as a worse Jeff Green who is a little better at the 4 but can still play the three but isnt quick enough. I dont think we have what the Wolves would want for him and I dont see a fit for him here either. Id save our assets to look elsewhere.
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Re: Source: Derrick Williams' Agent Inquires About Trade Possibility
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2012, 04:56:34 PM »

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head case, no thanks.

Williams, Cousins really need to grow up fast. These young guys that think they deserve everything , will be out of an nba job in a few eyars
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