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Re: Wallace
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 10:36:13 AM »

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Hell no, he was as bad as Antoine with his 3 point shot selection.

big call.
Yeah I remember walker taking more 3s off the dribble. Wallace just catch and shoots them instantly.

I'd go with Walker as being worse.

I remember Toine was put in the 3 point contest by the NBA just for giggles and scored 7, with multiple airballs in a row.

He still kept shooting those 3s though. Deep, deep threes.


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Re: Wallace
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2012, 10:56:56 AM »

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Juiced.

He said Rasheed Wallace, not LeBroid.

Re: Wallace
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2012, 11:01:32 AM »

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Hell no, he was as bad as Antoine with his 3 point shot selection.

big call.
Yeah I remember walker taking more 3s off the dribble. Wallace just catch and shoots them instantly.

I'd go with Walker as being worse.

I remember Toine was put in the 3 point contest by the NBA just for giggles and scored 7, with multiple airballs in a row.

He still kept shooting those 3s though. Deep, deep threes.

I'm pretty sure it was that 3-point contest when a reporter asked Antoine why he shot so many three pointers, and his response was perfectly emblematic of all that was wonderful and hopelessly flawed about Antoine Walker:

"Because there are no fours!"

Re: Wallace
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2012, 11:03:10 AM »

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?? I can't even remember the last time Sheed took a contested 3. 

Of course they're wide open.  Guy's shooting 28% from deep, pretty sure the game plan's no more complicated than "let's leave 'Sheed wide open to take as many 3's as he wants!"

Re: Wallace
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2012, 12:52:34 PM »

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Well to be fair, Antoine was probably the worst 3 point chucker in NBA history. I can't think of anyone else who was that bad of a shooter yet still took so many shots. 

Rasheed isn't far off though, especially when he was on the tail end of his career with the Celtics. Any time he touched the ball outside the 3 point line you knew a brick was coming.

Re: Wallace
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2012, 01:03:46 PM »

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Does Toine hold the record for most 3'sof attempted?

I thought at one point he did unless that was just him leading the league every year.....by a wide margin

Re: Wallace
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2012, 01:47:22 PM »

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And I agree with the terrible three point shot selection, he could always hit some big three point shots at big moments here and there but in years where he has attempted 1 or more three pointers a game his best percentage has been 36%. With a career average of only 33%.
?? I can't even remember the last time Sheed took a contested 3.  Every shot he took with us and in the Knicks' games I've seen it's when his man leaves him completely and nobody's within 10 feet of him.  36% might be above average for a guard, but it's elite from the center position.  In seasons that he's made at least 1 a game, he's shot above 35% 6 times and 33% once.

Yeah, not everybody still has their touch at 38, but why are you trying to take away from his career?  Nobody has lauded his shooting in years, people talk about his ridiculous post defense and how much space his length takes up in the paint.

It wasnt a good stat of his career. Just because hes wide open doesnt mean its still a good shot especially when he is making it on average 33%. The point Rasheed was a dirty post up player and could put up good shots in the paint. From shot selection point, he shouldnt have been chucking wide open threes at a bad rate when he could be more efficient in the paint.
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Re: Wallace
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2012, 01:50:25 PM »

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Does Toine hold the record for most 3'sof attempted?

I thought at one point he did unless that was just him leading the league every year.....by a wide margin

Toine is ranked 13th all time in 3 point attempts with 4,264.
The top 15 is pretty interesting actually with Pierce at number 5 and terry at 4.

Rank   Player   3PA
1.   Ray Allen   6857
2.   Reggie Miller*   6486
3.   Jason Kidd   5431
4.   Jason Terry   4779
5.   Paul Pierce   4628
6.   Chauncey Billups   4598
7.   Kobe Bryant   4566
8.   Rashard Lewis   4393
9.   Peja Stojakovic   4392
10.   Tim Hardaway   4345
11.   Nick Van Exel   4278
12.   Dale Ellis   4266
13.   Antoine Walker   4264
14.   Jason Richardson   4161
15.   Baron Davis   4159

Rasheed clocks in at 43rd with 3,217
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Re: Wallace
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2012, 01:54:11 PM »

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Love sheed and love seeing him back in the league.... count me as one that wishes he was on the cs

Re: Wallace
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2012, 01:59:14 PM »

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Does Toine hold the record for most 3'sof attempted?

I thought at one point he did unless that was just him leading the league every year.....by a wide margin

He led the league three years in a row (2001-03). Antoine was taking a ridiculous 7-8 threes a game in those seasons. The rest of his career he was down around 3-4 attempts. So he had three crazy years under Jim O'Brien.

His highest year, 2002 with 645 attempts, ranks 3rd all-time for a single season behind Ray Allen (653 with Seattle in 2006) and George McCloud (678 with Dallas in 1996 with the shortened line).

Antoine also ranks 9th and 14th with his other two seasons. Mookie Blaylock is the only other guy (along with Antoine) to rank twice in the top ten and three times in the top 20.

Re: Wallace
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2012, 02:20:54 PM »

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Antoine shot 36% from 3 in the title year regular season. That surprised me a bit. That's pretty decent.

Re: Wallace
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2012, 02:22:34 PM »

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15.   Baron Davis   4159


I remember thinking Baron Davis was the Antoine Walker of point guards for a while; fat and chucking up eight 3's a game (and only making two of them). 

Re: Wallace
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2012, 02:29:25 PM »

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This list is even better cause it shows makes as well. Walker 13th all time in attempts, 22nd all time in makes with a .325% good for second worst on the list behind only Davis of the Baron variety.


ALL TIME LEADERS: THREE POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
  PLAYER            3FGA    3FG%     3FGM
  1. Ray Allen      6,857    .401    2,751
  2. Reggie Miller    6,486    .395    2,560
  3. Jason Kidd      5,432    .350    1,901
  4. Jason Terry    4,779    .380    1,817
  5. Chauncey Billups    4,598    .389    1,787
  6. Peja Stojakovic    4,392    .401    1,760
  7. Dale Ellis      4,266    .403    1,719
  8. Paul Pierce    4,628    .369    1,709
  9. Rashard Lewis    4,393    .388    1,706
  10. Steve Nash    3,790    .428    1,621
  11. Glen Rice    3,896    .400    1,559
  12. Jason Richardson    4,161    .373    1,553
  13. Eddie Jones    4,147    .373    1,546
  14. Vince Carter    4,119    .375    1,543
  15. Tim Hardaway    4,345    .355    1,542
  16. Kobe Bryant    4,566    .337    1,540
  17. Nick Van Exel    4,278    .357    1,528
  18. Mike Bibby    3,999    .379    1,517
  19. Michael Finley    3,880    .375    1,454
  20. Jamal Crawford    4,083    .349    1,425
  21. Brent Barry    3,442    .405    1,395
  22. Antoine Walker    4,264    .325    1,386
  23. Mike Miller    3,370    .406    1,367
  24. Dan Majerle    3,798    .358    1,360
  25. Baron Davis    4,159    .320    1,332
  26. Mitch Richmond    3,417    .388    1,326
  27. Joe Johnson    3,566    .368    1,311
  28. Allan Houston    3,247    .402    1,305
  29. Terry Porter    3,360    .386    1,297
  30. Mookie Blaylock    3,816    .336    1,283
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Re: Wallace
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2012, 02:38:44 PM »

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Well we could actually get Ben Wallace if anyone interested.

Re: Wallace
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2012, 03:42:19 PM »

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Seriously i cant even imagine making another thread about not resigning/ trading a guy. Rasheed of all people. Get over it please for everybody's sake.

 

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