http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8718559/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-becomes-youngest-player-nba-history-score-30000-career-points
Yet another reason to hate Kobe...
"This is a franchise, like I've said in the past, guys whose jerseys hang up in the rafters are some of the all-time greats," Bryant said earlier this week. "Not just greats for the franchise. I don't know if there's any other organization that can say that."
Guess he doesn't remember all the retired numbers hanging in Boston.
Hate to say it, but the third greatest Celtic of all time might not be better then the 6th or 7th best Laker of all time. Talking about from an individual greatness standpoint.
you should hate to say it because that would be a lie.
Hmm, 3rd best Celtic would probably be Havlicek (Russell and Bird being 1 and 2). I'm fully confident that Hondo is a lot better than whoever the Lakers post at 6 or 7 in their franshise's history.
Hey I love the Celtics as much as the next guy, but I think Kane made a fair statement.
If we go with Hondo at #3...
No doubt Wilt, Magic, Kareem, are ahead of him (they're all in the Bird/Russell greatest of all time range).
Then Shaq, Elgin Baylor, and Jerry West, are all ahead of Hondo too.
And like it or not, I think most unbiased people will probably end up putting Kobe higher than Hondo too (as much as it makes me shutter to say that).
You might be able to argue 1-2 of those guys isn't as good as Hondo, but I think most would say those are 7 players better than him.
Back to the Kobe thing though, with so few people at 30k, I think it's kind of weird to say "youngest to" when you're dealing with such a small club. Like saying the youngest ever to 700 home runs or something.
I still consider top 5 Wilt a Philadelphia player.
LA brings in a lot more great players from other teams for short pieces of their career.
Anyone hear the "Kobe top 5 all time" discussion on Mike and Mike this morning?
Completely disgusted when Bird is mentioned as an after thought.
Same, but not to the same level with Shaq and Duncan.
Top level Bird, Shaq and Duncan were never on a team that missed or barely got into the playoffs. Their teams were contenders.
Can't say the same thing about Kobe.