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Offline mrpoundforpound

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2012, 06:46:40 PM »
I must say, I can not help but laugh when someone uses cumulative stats to quantify Perk's performance, or, contributions.  His overall numbers will never look great, or likely, even good.

Then why do we even use stats at all?  Why do we use them to evaluate Ryan Hollins or Greg Stiesma?  Or - GASP - Jeff Green? 

Why not just use our own biased opinions about one player, because we are know-it-alls?  Make it all subjective, let's throw every stat out the window.

Why is Kendrick Perkins the exception to the rule that every other NBA or professional athlete is held to?

Have a TP sir.

I love how stats dont lie when they're evaluating Jeff Green, but when it comes to Perk, he does immeasurable things.

Exactly we all know that what Jeff brings to this team goes way beyond his stats just like what Perkins does. He has the potential to be an all star as well which is something perkins will never have. Hes also younger.

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2012, 08:34:03 PM »
In retrospect, neither team won at this deal.

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2012, 08:38:02 PM »
In retrospect, neither team won at this deal.

OKC won by unloading their garbage onto us.

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2012, 01:51:48 AM »
Perkins has definitely made his impact felt here in OKC.


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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2012, 01:55:22 AM »
In retrospect, neither team won at this deal.

When you throw in the pick we won.


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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2012, 11:51:44 AM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2012, 11:58:39 AM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

That said, Howard grabbed 18 rebounds and went 9-17 shooting for 23 points, 3 assists, 1 block (and 6 TOs).

Perk went 0-2, 3 rebs, 2 assists, 1 block, 2 TOs, and 5 fouls in 23 minutes of play.

I don't think yesterday was a game to salivate over Perk about.

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2012, 12:05:52 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

Yea see above. what are you talking about?

he got murdered  ???

I think I can find the above stat line vs howard for less than 10 mill a year.
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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2012, 06:03:51 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

Yea see above. what are you talking about?

he got murdered  ???

I think I can find the above stat line vs howard for less than 10 mill a year.

Who won the game? Once again, we resort to stats when we talk about Perk. Where did I say I wanted to pay Perk $10 million a year and wanted him back? What I did say is the Celts miss the attitude and toughness that a guy like Perk brings to a team. But wait, there is no stat like that, so I guess I don't know anything about basketball.  ::)

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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2012, 06:11:18 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

Yea see above. what are you talking about?

he got murdered  ???

I think I can find the above stat line vs howard for less than 10 mill a year.
Stat lines don't tell everything other than in the first quarter a bit Howard was not a factor at all and Perkins along with Collison were a reason why


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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2012, 08:48:17 PM »

I think I can find the above stat line vs howard for less than 10 mill a year.

How many times are you going to inflate the amount of money Perk makes?  Can you post a link for the number you are using, or are you purposely misstating his salary to bolster your argument. 

Here's a link to NBA salaries

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

Here's another one

http://storytellerscontracts.info/

Here's Perk's deal with OKC

2012-2013 $8.3m per Storytellers, $7.8m per Hoopshype


In this thread, you claimed

He's been injured and generally awful at 9 million a year since the trade.

they got rid of harden BECAUSE of perk. Perks 9/mill per limited them in what they could offer Harden. you really think they don't want a do over on that one?

His cap hit is $8.9m next yer per Storytellers.

Do you have a different site where you get these salary numbers?



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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2012, 09:15:53 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.
Did Perk play in the second half?
He was garbage in the first half.
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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2012, 09:18:08 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

Perkins was terrible in that game.

In no way did he change what howard was going to get offensively.


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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2012, 09:27:29 PM »

I think I can find the above stat line vs howard for less than 10 mill a year.

How many times are you going to inflate the amount of money Perk makes?  Can you post a link for the number you are using, or are you purposely misstating his salary to bolster your argument. 

Here's a link to NBA salaries

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

Here's another one

http://storytellerscontracts.info/

Here's Perk's deal with OKC

2012-2013 $8.3m per Storytellers, $7.8m per Hoopshype


In this thread, you claimed

He's been injured and generally awful at 9 million a year since the trade.

they got rid of harden BECAUSE of perk. Perks 9/mill per limited them in what they could offer Harden. you really think they don't want a do over on that one?

His cap hit is $8.9m next yer per Storytellers.

Do you have a different site where you get these salary numbers?

Sorry, I missed on his cap hit by a million, a TP for your research.

Let me rephrase. I can find a guy to play defense and have a much better statline than that against howard for 8.3 million this year, and 8.9 next year.

Savvy?
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Re: Yeah, I wish we still had Perkins...
« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2012, 09:29:37 PM »
Perk looked good last night against the Lakers. Doing everything the Thunder need him to do -- setting great picks, playing tough defense, and continually irritating the hell out of the opponent. This team misses a lot of what Perk brings to the game.

 

Perkins was terrible in that game.

In no way did he change what howard was going to get offensively.

True this , I love Perk and wish he wasn't traded, but he sucked so bad , total non factor......Perk was there ...thats about I can say.... Durrant , West Brook and Ibaka destroyed the Lakers .  I thought OKC was going to fall asleep it was so easy stomping LA.


 

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