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« on: December 04, 2012, 06:30:15 PM » |
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Per ESPN Boston: The Boston Red Sox reached a three-year, $39 million agreement with free-agent outfielder Shane Victorino on Tuesday, according to a source with direct knowledge of the negotiations.
The deal is pending a physical.
The terms of the agreement are exactly the same as the deal Boston reached with free-agent first baseman/catcher Mike Napoli on Monday.
The 32-year-old Victorino, traded in midseason from the Philadelphia Phillies to the Los Angeles Dodgers, had a down season. He batted a combined .255 with 11 homers, 55 RBIs and a .704 OPS. Victorino adds speed, Napoli power, but are they enough? Are they the right pieces? What do you guys think about these moves?
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Mattybriand
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 06:45:23 PM » |
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Not a fan of victorino.. That is all  Call me crazy but I'd offer Josh Hamilton 4 years
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 07:00:10 PM » |
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I'd go all out for Josh Hamilton as well, although they need a top tier starting pitcher more imo.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 07:04:40 PM » |
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Paid waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 07:49:07 PM » |
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I don't really care for either move. Both players are complimentary players, NOT players that will help win a world series.
I too would've gone after Hamilton and if they didn't sign him, I would've gone after Swisher. Swisher proved he can play in the AL East the past 3 years with the Yanks.
Speaking of former Yankees, I also would've rather had Russell Martin over Napoli.
Boo to both moves!
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 08:52:34 PM » |
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Paid waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
I agree, but that is how it works today in the FA market. Also, the deals are only for three years, so they won't hamper us forever. Victorino certainly isn't worth the money, but I am a huge fan of his attitude and think he will help bring back the old Red Sox personality. And, yes, count me in as someone who would have gone all out for Josh Hamilton. We could have looked at it like a Gonzalez for Hamilton 'trade', while dumping some bad contracts in the process.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 08:57:14 PM » |
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I'd rather have Adrian Gonzalez than Napoli + Victorino.
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 09:07:54 PM » |
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I'd rather have Adrian Gonzalez than Napoli + Victorino.
Eh, I never really got into Gonzalez. He seemed like a National League player not cut out for Boston. I would've rather they went after Prince Fielder a couple years ago. Sure, defense is weak but what a bat. I think he would've been a better fit in Boston than Gonzalez
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2012, 09:10:44 PM » |
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Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Rival officials believe that the Red Sox are laying the groundwork for a trade of Jacoby Ellsbury, for the pitching they need.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2012, 09:20:01 PM » |
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Napoli and Victorino are mid level talent at best and yet they both get 8 figure salaries for three years each.
Sorry, but this is some of the absolutely stupidest signings I have seen this team make since the days of the Lou Gorman Sox. $13 million a year for mediocre at best level talent is a huge waste of money.
The Sox are going to be another last place team again next year that will have a huge payroll because they are giving star money to role playing players at best.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2012, 09:41:40 PM » |
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Napoli and Victorino are mid level talent at best and yet they both get 8 figure salaries for three years each.
Sorry, but this is some of the absolutely stupidest signings I have seen this team make since the days of the Lou Gorman Sox. $13 million a year for mediocre at best level talent is a huge waste of money.
The Sox are going to be another last place team again next year that will have a huge payroll because they are giving star money to role playing players at best.
Yup. When you add up the money they spent on Victorino, Napoli, Ross, Ryan Gomes and Ortiz, they could've signed Hamilton and Greinke
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 09:44:11 PM » |
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Napoli and Victorino are mid level talent at best and yet they both get 8 figure salaries for three years each.
Sorry, but this is some of the absolutely stupidest signings I have seen this team make since the days of the Lou Gorman Sox. $13 million a year for mediocre at best level talent is a huge waste of money.
The Sox are going to be another last place team again next year that will have a huge payroll because they are giving star money to role playing players at best.
Yup. When you add up the money they spent on Victorino, Napoli, Ross, Ryan Gomes and Ortiz, they could've signed Hamilton and Greinke
they better have some great players coming out of the farm system soon, that's all I've got to say about that
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 10:08:24 PM » |
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I'd rather have Adrian Gonzalez than Napoli + Victorino.
I'd rather have Napoli + Victorino than Gonzalez + Beckett + Crawford + Punto.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 10:16:17 PM » |
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I'd go all out for Josh Hamilton as well, although they need a top tier starting pitcher more imo.
Kinda my thoughts. In spite of all the injuries the Red Sox suffered last year, their offense was rarely a problem. They're in desperate need of starting pitching.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 11:16:07 PM » |
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Napoli and Victorino are mid level talent at best and yet they both get 8 figure salaries for three years each.
Sorry, but this is some of the absolutely stupidest signings I have seen this team make since the days of the Lou Gorman Sox. $13 million a year for mediocre at best level talent is a huge waste of money.
The Sox are going to be another last place team again next year that will have a huge payroll because they are giving star money to role playing players at best.
Could not agree more. I wanted Napoli 2 years ago because I was tired of him killing Sox pitchers all the time. But Napoli is a career .260 hitter with 25-27HR power on the wrong side of 30. And if Napoli is questionable, Victorino is outright insanity. I mean 39mil for OF defense and baserunning?? At least if you're gonna overpay, overpay for a power bat. I get that you need to field a team and you have to spend money somewhere but these guys are worth 7-8mil any other year but this one. Hell, we could've kept Ross for 3 yrs at 8 or 9 mil i think.
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