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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2012, 03:40:38 PM »

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Considering the offers from some of the posters on here you'd think Varejao and Gortat are basketball gods that are both leading their respective teams to 60 win seasons.

I get that we need a center but these guys are just reasonable players on crap teams. Someone's gotta get the stats.


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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2012, 05:02:52 PM »

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I think the team would go Futher with Bradley/Varejao , than Rondo /Varejao.


  I think the team would go farther with Rondo than Bradley/Varejao.

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2012, 09:26:05 PM »

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If the Celtics had a top 3-protected first round pick from a team like Orlando, I would trade that pick plus Sullinger for Varejao.
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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2012, 09:36:33 PM »

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If the Celtics had a top 3-protected first round pick from a team like Orlando, I would trade that pick plus Sullinger for Varejao.

I wont do that. Sullinger will be better as the NBA years grow on him. Plus having a top 3 protected pick will net you an impact player in the future. I dont want to sell the future just for the now that Varejao may bring.
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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2012, 10:01:35 PM »

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I equate this thread to "what would you do for a Klondike Bar"

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2012, 04:26:26 PM »

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Do you think Cleveland will trade Varejao while his value is high. Would a Spurs trade involving Leonard, Blair and Bonner be a good deal for both teams?
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They're open to it. But it would have to be a very good deal. Varejao is playing as well as any big man in the NBA. There is no reason to trade him unless they are getting back multiple young assets in return. He has a cap friendly contract (based on his performance this year) ... Kawhi Leonard would obviously be attractive to them, but it's going to take more than that to get an All-Star center like Varejao.

So according to Chad Ford Kawhi Leonard isn't enough to land Varejao.  The original thought added Blair and Bonnar, which I gather from Ford's tone isn't enough either.
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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2012, 04:31:14 PM »

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Do you think Cleveland will trade Varejao while his value is high. Would a Spurs trade involving Leonard, Blair and Bonner be a good deal for both teams?
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They're open to it. But it would have to be a very good deal. Varejao is playing as well as any big man in the NBA. There is no reason to trade him unless they are getting back multiple young assets in return. He has a cap friendly contract (based on his performance this year) ... Kawhi Leonard would obviously be attractive to them, but it's going to take more than that to get an All-Star center like Varejao.

So according to Chad Ford Kawhi Leonard isn't enough to land Varejao.  The original thought added Blair and Bonnar, which I gather from Ford's tone isn't enough either.

Yup.  Which goes back to what I have been saying.  Why would they trade him?  He is signed for 2 more years at a bargain basement price.  And even if this year is a wash (which I am not sure I completely believe...they can still climb back into it), they have two more years out of him, and I would imagine they would hope to start winning games over those two years. 

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2012, 04:40:59 PM »

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Do you think Cleveland will trade Varejao while his value is high. Would a Spurs trade involving Leonard, Blair and Bonner be a good deal for both teams?
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They're open to it. But it would have to be a very good deal. Varejao is playing as well as any big man in the NBA. There is no reason to trade him unless they are getting back multiple young assets in return. He has a cap friendly contract (based on his performance this year) ... Kawhi Leonard would obviously be attractive to them, but it's going to take more than that to get an All-Star center like Varejao.

So according to Chad Ford Kawhi Leonard isn't enough to land Varejao.  The original thought added Blair and Bonnar, which I gather from Ford's tone isn't enough either.

Kawhi Leonard would be a good piece. I think Cleveland makes that trade.

Not sure it is worth it for San Antonio though. Seems like more of a lateral move. Lose youth without enough of a short term upgrade.

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2012, 04:41:24 PM »

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Do you think Cleveland will trade Varejao while his value is high. Would a Spurs trade involving Leonard, Blair and Bonner be a good deal for both teams?
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They're open to it. But it would have to be a very good deal. Varejao is playing as well as any big man in the NBA. There is no reason to trade him unless they are getting back multiple young assets in return. He has a cap friendly contract (based on his performance this year) ... Kawhi Leonard would obviously be attractive to them, but it's going to take more than that to get an All-Star center like Varejao.

So according to Chad Ford Kawhi Leonard isn't enough to land Varejao.  The original thought added Blair and Bonnar, which I gather from Ford's tone isn't enough either.

  According to Ford Varejao is an all-star center.

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2012, 04:54:13 PM »

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Was Varejao always this good? Maybe i just wasn't paying attention but when the cavs were actually relevant i don't remember him being THIS good...

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2012, 04:56:27 PM »

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Was Varejao always this good? Maybe i just wasn't paying attention but when the cavs were actually relevant i don't remember him being THIS good...

Varejao is a Dale Davis level player. Has been for a long time.

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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2012, 04:57:07 PM »

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He's on a rampage through the league - the Cavs will be asking for the moon. But everyone else in the league is going to be terrified that Varejao goes down for the season after they overpay for him.

I think there will be too much distance between the Cavs' estimation of Varejao and the available buyers' ability to pay for a bargain to be struck. 

Sadly, I predict that Varejao will spend his golden years toiling for one of the worst rosters in the league.
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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2012, 05:01:41 PM »

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Do you think Cleveland will trade Varejao while his value is high. Would a Spurs trade involving Leonard, Blair and Bonner be a good deal for both teams?
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They're open to it. But it would have to be a very good deal. Varejao is playing as well as any big man in the NBA. There is no reason to trade him unless they are getting back multiple young assets in return. He has a cap friendly contract (based on his performance this year) ... Kawhi Leonard would obviously be attractive to them, but it's going to take more than that to get an All-Star center like Varejao.

So according to Chad Ford Kawhi Leonard isn't enough to land Varejao.  The original thought added Blair and Bonnar, which I gather from Ford's tone isn't enough either.

  According to Ford Varejao is an all-star center.
I'm pretty sure he was referring to his play this year, you know when he is 15/15 and will easily make the all star team if he stays healthy. 
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Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2012, 05:15:11 PM »

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He's on a rampage through the league - the Cavs will be asking for the moon. But everyone else in the league is going to be terrified that Varejao goes down for the season after they overpay for him.

I think there will be too much distance between the Cavs' estimation of Varejao and the available buyers' ability to pay for a bargain to be struck. 

Sadly, I predict that Varejao will spend his golden years toiling for one of the worst rosters in the league.

Why are they one of the worst rosters in the league?  They have one of the best young players in the league, and a ton of assets.  I really don't think Cleveland gets enough credit for the position they are in right now.  They have their superstar, and are poised to surround him with very good players.  Just give it a little time.

Re: what would you give up for Anderson Varejao?
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2012, 05:24:30 PM »

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Was Varejao always this good? Maybe i just wasn't paying attention but when the cavs were actually relevant i don't remember him being THIS good...

He's the typical sort of player who gets underrated because he's not a scorer.
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