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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 11:01:52 AM »

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The best bait the Celtics have is still Green if he keeps playing the way he is. 

The Cavs have young players at PG, SG, PF and C.  They need a SF. 


Green, Bass and Melo for Sideshow, Walton and CJ Miles work numbers wise. 

Really depends on how much they would value Green and Melo.  (Melo could easily be replaced by Sully)

By the time Green and Bass are tradable, Walton's contract is nearing its end. I suspect they'd rather have flexibility than Bass.

My point: If Green is indeed playing well and desirable, you could make it Sideshow and change (Casspi seems to make the most sense from a $ perspective) for Green, Melo and picks, cash, etc.

This would leave the Cs with a little more breathing room from the lux tax to add another player or two as FAs this season.

Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2012, 11:05:06 AM »

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The best bait the Celtics have is still Green if he keeps playing the way he is. 

The Cavs have young players at PG, SG, PF and C.  They need a SF. 


Green, Bass and Melo for Sideshow, Walton and CJ Miles work numbers wise. 

Really depends on how much they would value Green and Melo.  (Melo could easily be replaced by Sully)

By the time Green and Bass are tradable, Walton's contract is nearing its end. I suspect they'd rather have flexibility than Bass.

My point: If Green is indeed playing well and desirable, you could make it Sideshow and change (Casspi seems to make the most sense from a $ perspective) for Green, Melo and picks, cash, etc.

This would leave the Cs with a little more breathing room from the lux tax to add another player or two as FAs this season.


I only included him because of a rumor that the Cavs want the other team to take him.


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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2012, 11:09:04 AM »

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The best bait the Celtics have is still Green if he keeps playing the way he is. 

The Cavs have young players at PG, SG, PF and C.  They need a SF. 


Green, Bass and Melo for Sideshow, Walton and CJ Miles work numbers wise. 

Really depends on how much they would value Green and Melo.  (Melo could easily be replaced by Sully)

By the time Green and Bass are tradable, Walton's contract is nearing its end. I suspect they'd rather have flexibility than Bass.

My point: If Green is indeed playing well and desirable, you could make it Sideshow and change (Casspi seems to make the most sense from a $ perspective) for Green, Melo and picks, cash, etc.

This would leave the Cs with a little more breathing room from the lux tax to add another player or two as FAs this season.


I only included him because of a rumor that the Cavs want the other team to take him.

Yep I get it. Just saying I doubt they'd want Bass for an expiring contract of that size in late January.

Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2012, 11:19:19 AM »

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One interesting possibility:

OKC trade Perkins + Jeremy Lamb + Toronto 1st Round Pick for Varejao.

The Thunder would be absurd with Varejao playing next to Serge in the frontcourt.

Good call.  Though I'd love to get him on the Cs, the Thunder would be a near perfect landing spot for him.  I wouldn't mind seeing that, as I kind of like both the Thunder and Varajao.

If they could turn that haul they got from Houston into Varajao and keep Martin, that Harden trade by Presti could be looking like pure gold in the end.  Varajao has endured a lot of "Sideshow Bob" types of ridicule over the years, but he's a [dang]ed good player that any team would love to have.

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2012, 11:44:02 AM »

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As great as Varejao has been, they're not going to get an elite prospect with All-Star potential for him.  The kind of team that wants Varejao is a team on the verge of being a contender (e.g. the Celtics). 

Teams like that don't tend to have elite prospects to give up.


One interesting possibility:

OKC trade Perkins + Jeremy Lamb + Toronto 1st Round Pick for Varejao.


The Thunder would be absurd with Varejao playing next to Serge in the frontcourt.

Thats an amazing trade for the Thunder, however the Cavs are pretty young at the guard spots already so Im not sure where Lamb would fit in.


Lamb isn't the prize per se, it's the lottery pick from the Raptors, who so far have one of the worst records in the league this season.
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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2012, 12:00:10 PM »

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As great as Varejao has been, they're not going to get an elite prospect with All-Star potential for him.  The kind of team that wants Varejao is a team on the verge of being a contender (e.g. the Celtics). 

Teams like that don't tend to have elite prospects to give up.


One interesting possibility:

OKC trade Perkins + Jeremy Lamb + Toronto 1st Round Pick for Varejao.


The Thunder would be absurd with Varejao playing next to Serge in the frontcourt.

Yeah this is pretty scary. TP.

This looks like an unusually sensible NBA trade to me. Could be Jones if not Lamb, or both. And they might even want to get rid of that pick in a weak draft considering the cap number against it for 2013+. CLE would also be an excellent landing spot for Perk if he's traded.

The only issue -- I think OKC needs to shed some $$$ (thus the talk of a Perk amnesty and the Harden trade). Could be that they need to ask CLE to take back something else to assure they can keep Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka and Sideshow together long term. So they might even desire than both Lamb and Jones go to CLE in the deal....

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2012, 12:43:12 PM »

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Can anyone think of elite level young talent?

I don't see it matching up with Varejao.

And someone mentioned AB not fitting that description. If he doesn't who does? The Cabs aren't getting a 20-23 year old all-star for Varejao of that's what they are thinking

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2012, 01:17:10 PM »

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Can anyone think of elite level young talent?

I don't see it matching up with Varejao.

And someone mentioned AB not fitting that description. If he doesn't who does? The Cabs aren't getting a 20-23 year old all-star for Varejao of that's what they are thinking

Again, the best answer I can come up with is the (sure to be) lottery pick from the Raptors that the Thunder have coupled with a contract like Collison or (more likely) Perkins.
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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2012, 08:27:23 PM »

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I think the Cavs would take Bass+Sully+Bradley for Verajao.
Or Bass+Melo+pick+Bradley.

They would like a lottery pick but the closest I think they come is that Toronto pick from OKC which is a very good idea.
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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2012, 08:50:33 PM »

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I doubt the Cavs have much interest in Avery Bradley.

yeah but Dion Waiters is a 6th man, manu ginobli type player.... Cleveland can start Avery Bradley and have Dion Waiters be a high scoring 6th man

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2012, 08:55:49 PM »

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The goal for the Cavs should be to acquire players who have the potential to equal Varejao's current production in 2015-2016 while still being on a rookie scale contract then.  The Cavs really shouldn't be talking about trades with any team that can't offer that time-shifting of talent to build around Irving's prime years.
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Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2012, 09:00:15 PM »

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I just don't see how Ainge could pull it off. We don't have the pieces.

Re: Executive: Varejao ‘The Top Target’ If Available
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2012, 09:35:49 PM »

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Wonder if Danny would trade RONDO for Varejao ,  then we could keep AB , Sully and FaB
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Uh lets hope not

 

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