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Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« on: December 02, 2012, 12:59:53 AM »

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These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.

Re: Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 01:07:33 AM »

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It's Doc's plays.

Re: Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 01:13:29 AM »

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Lee and green have benefitted from playing more minutes, not from not playing with the leagues best point guard

Re: Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 01:20:24 AM »

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I'm pretty sure Green is more comfortable operating in an offense where people just take turns calling their own numbers.

After all, that was exactly the kind of team he played on for the first three and a half years of his career.
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Re: Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 01:22:06 AM »

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I'm pretty sure Green is more comfortable operating in an offense where people just take turns calling their own numbers.

After all, that was exactly the kind of team he played on for the first three and a half years of his career.

TP to you! I like the shot at Brooks and Westbrook :) Actually your point is very valid the more I think about OKC's style

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 03:11:40 AM »

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Anyone else sense that there is some sort of feud or power crisis going on in the locker room

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 04:18:03 AM »

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Anyone else sense that there is some sort of feud or power crisis going on in the locker room

  I don't get that sense. But even if you're claiming that there's a power crisis going on between Rondo and others I doubt it would last long because I'd bet that KG would back the player that goes after a much bigger player for fouling KG.

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 04:19:27 AM »

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These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.

  I thought the last 2 games showed that some players need to be more intense and focused, not comfortable and loose.

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 04:24:42 AM »

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Anyone else sense that there is some sort of feud or power crisis going on in the locker room

  I don't get that sense. But even if you're claiming that there's a power crisis going on between Rondo and others I doubt it would last long because I'd bet that KG would back the player that goes after a much bigger player for fouling KG.

You're right.

If anything what Rondo did probably united them.

A team of brothers.

These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.

  I thought the last 2 games showed that some players need to be more intense and focused, not comfortable and loose.

The 3 quarters in today's game told me that too.

Thing is with limited minutes to go around, they need to learn to get in the groove quick. They need to learn to contribute in less than minutes they're used to. They need to learn to contribute in ways other than scoring.

Wilcox and Barbosa have done exactly that. JG, CLee, Bass and others have to learn. They can't coast even a little. 100% for all their minutes.

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 08:43:17 AM »

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Why do people keep saying the lack of Rondo does anything?  It's the lack of his 37 minutes and 11 FGA that opens things up.

If KG misses a game Bass probably scores 20.
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Re: Does Rondo stress out some of the players?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 09:18:20 AM »

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OR, it could be that rondo's suspension/the embarrassment of the loss against the Nets got into guys like Green/Lee's heads to start playing with more effort/look for their score more.

they look like totally different players the last two games with their effort.


last years run started when Rondo was out and Bradley stepped up.

as long as Lee/Green CONTINUE that play when Rondo comes back we are going to be fine

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 10:03:11 AM »

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Anyone else sense that there is some sort of feud or power crisis going on in the locker room

  I don't get that sense. But even if you're claiming that there's a power crisis going on between Rondo and others I doubt it would last long because I'd bet that KG would back the player that goes after a much bigger player for fouling KG.

You're right.

If anything what Rondo did probably united them.

A team of brothers.

These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.

  I thought the last 2 games showed that some players need to be more intense and focused, not comfortable and loose.

The 3 quarters in today's game told me that too.

Thing is with limited minutes to go around, they need to learn to get in the groove quick. They need to learn to contribute in less than minutes they're used to. They need to learn to contribute in ways other than scoring.

Wilcox and Barbosa have done exactly that. JG, CLee, Bass and others have to learn. They can't coast even a little. 100% for all their minutes.

Completely agree. The more comfortable they get I bet the less they would produce. Intensity and focus is whats going to help this team the most.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 10:26:51 AM »

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These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.
No, it's kind of simpler than that -- Rondo dominates the ball, and that takes away from some players' ability to contribute. Jeff Green, in particular, is not going to give you much if you're making him sit in the corner all the time, or move around without the ball.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 11:02:27 AM »

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These past two games without Rondo have shown that some players just need to be a bit more comfortable and loose when they're out there, in order to make significant contributions.

The players that come to mind are Jeff Green and Courtney Lee. I was wondering if this had anything to do with Rondo's constant control of the offense? I'm not saying the team is better or anything like that but it appeared that the players were freer in their approach and had less inhibitions.

Do you think that Rondo's high intelligence and ability is intimidating to some guys on the team or is it just because the offense is played differently when he's not on the floor?

Either way I would like to see Rondo be a bit less ball dominant when he returns to see the two approaches can be combined.
No, it's kind of simpler than that -- Rondo dominates the ball, and that takes away from some players' ability to contribute. Jeff Green, in particular, is not going to give you much if you're making him sit in the corner all the time, or move around without the ball.

  So he's forced to either stand still or move around without the ball?

  And when Rondo passes the ball to Green, how does he stop him from taking the ball to the rack? Telekinesis?

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 11:11:48 AM »

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Everything is Rondo's fault.

Yea, Green played good but against what team?  The two games we've played without Rondo are against the worst teams in the league.  Of course, Green and Lee are bound to shine.  These two still needs to be traded...

KG is still the heart of this team but Rondo is that straw that stirs everything

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