Is Jeff Green Boston's Real X-Factor Or "Trash"?

[BudweiserCeltic]

reduce PP minutes. Does Doc have the guts?

I 'm now on the bandwagon for Green starting at few games to see if it helps , and Pierce comming off the bench.  Pierce is still "KING" and most important , but.... Green just seems to have trouble comming in cold . It might be better to get GREEN off to a good start and then play Pierce , who can seem to turn up the wick sooner.

Might be that if Green is provide offense the Celtics expect...he may have to start some.

DOC should AT LEAST give it a shot a few games and see what happens. ?

I agree with this. I also agree with the OP yesterday who suggested Green start alongside Pierce at the 2-3.

On D, Green has the athleticism to guard the opponents 2. On O, one of Pierce/Green could post up and present problems for the 2 who is guarding them or just shoot over them. If the opponent has a big 2, like Joe Johnson, that's a or better matchup for us than Lee/Jet or even Bradley on him.

When Pierce gets tired, move Green to the 3, bring in Jet and we're good to go.

I'd love to start Green and Pierce, but our wing roster is not built for that. Maybe when Bradley returns, or if you want to use more Joseph instead of Barbosa.

[cman88]

As Ive been saying all season, when Green gets big minutes he can produce like this. He needs to be in the game for long stretches because he will never be an instant offense guy, he needs minutes to get into his rhythm. Last night he played the entire 2nd quarter and he had his best stretch of basketball this season.

 He is never going to be able to produce in spurts of 3 and 4 minutes at a time but if we can find him minutes to leave him in for long stretches he is going to continue to play like this.

  I didn't see much of the game although I did see some of Green's play. But you have to ask, does he do well when he gets more minutes, or does he get more minutes because he was playing well?

thats a good question, but I think doc needs to give him consistent minutes to get him going....it seemed like early in the season one night he would get 30 and the next 15...its hard to build a rhythm that way

no matter how many bricks hes shooting up, Bass still gets his minutes/shots. guys like Terry/Barbosa are guys who can just come off the bench and hit 3 shots in a row(as we saw barbosa score something like 11points in 4minutes)

Green seems more like the sort of guy that takes alittle while to get going, but once he does you cant stop him

[Brendan]

I'm on board with Green starting over Pierce. I think they could cut Barbosa out of the rotation and play something like this:

Rondo (36) / Terry (12)
Lee (24) / Terry (18) / Pierce (6)
Green (28) / Pierce (20)
Sully (22) / Bass (24) / Pierce (2)
KG (28) / Wilcox (20)

(Sully, Bass, Wilcox are basically interchangeable.)

I'm not convinced it will improve the team, but absent a trade I think its the best chance to improve the overall team performance.

[crimson_stallion]

I don't think starting Green is necessary or beneficial.  Pierce is not he dominant force he once was, but there us still no one else on this team who can take over games in spurts the way Pierce can.  When he decides to turn it on he is practically impossible to defend

I definitely think Green is our X factor though.  IMHO this Celtics team will go as Jeff goes.  Far as bench scorers go Terry is a handful for any team once he gets hot - very tough to stop.  We have all seen what Green is capable of when he gets hot.  Imagine if Green plays like that consistently AND Terry continues to play the way he has...and both of those guys are coming off our bench?  What second unit in this league could compete with that?  You're talking 30 points off the bench from two guys. 

I think both Terry and Jeff need 28-30 minutes off the bench to really give their best for us. 

I'm thinking something like this:

PG: Rondo (32), Terry (, Barbosa (
SG: Lee (28), Terry (20)
SF: Pierce (28), Green (20)
PF: Bass (20), Sullinger (20), Green (
C: Garnett (28), Wilcox (20)

This puts both Terry and Green at starter-like minutes (28 per night) while is also gives Pierce and Rondo more rest which I think is needed.  Also much as I like seeing Bass start, I don't think he's done any more that Sullinger to earn minutes.  I'd start Bass (veteran respect) but split the playing time between he and Sully.  I think Sully (like Green) is more effective when he gets solid playing time. 

 

[cman88]

well, another solid game from Green.

18points, 6rebounds in 24 minutes off the bench.

I was interested to see how he would play after his performance in Portland last night.

has he flipped the switch? I can only hope so because he makes our offense alot better.

[vinnie]

Green has been solid 3 out of the last 5 games and for the first time this year he put together back-to-back good outings. He is going to need to do this on a regular basis for this team to have any shot at anything. That and another big man, Danny.

[blastoidesroidsnoids]

You can tell when his confidence is there, not only does he rebound and shoot the rock alot better, but his high bball IQ shows through alot more. 

Is he our best scorer?

[LooseCannon]

Green has been solid 3 out of the last 5 games and for the first time this year he put together back-to-back good outings. He is going to need to do this on a regular basis for this team to have any shot at anything.

If he can have a good, solid game around half the time and have the rest of his appearances be mainly mediocre games with few true stinkers, he would be a very useful player who, if not worth his contract, would be overpaid by only a few million with reason to believe he can be better next season.

[jdz101]

You can tell when his confidence is there, not only does he rebound and shoot the rock alot better, but his high bball IQ shows through alot more. 

Is he our best scorer?

Not our best scorer by any stretch. That said now his jumper is falling and his corner 3, he has no trouble scoring 10-12 in a quarter, which is definitely making him more explosive as a scorer than some of the older guys.

[indeedproceed]

I couldn't watch tonight, but what the heck happened? His boxscore looks great til you see his plus minus. Was his defense atrocious, or was he solid but the unit terrible?

[bfrombleacher]

I couldn't watch tonight, but what the heck happened? His boxscore looks great til you see his plus minus. Was his defense atrocious, or was he solid but the unit terrible?

He didn't do much wrong.

[blastoidesroidsnoids]

You can tell when his confidence is there, not only does he rebound and shoot the rock alot better, but his high bball IQ shows through alot more. 

Is he our best scorer?

Not our best scorer by any stretch. That said now his jumper is falling and his corner 3, he has no trouble scoring 10-12 in a quarter, which is definitely making him more explosive as a scorer than some of the older guys.

If he attempted shots at the same clip as pierce he easily could be.  His efficiency is absurdly good when hes in his rhythm and hes as good a slasher as anyone on this team.

[PhoSita]

I couldn't watch tonight, but what the heck happened? His boxscore looks great til you see his plus minus. Was his defense atrocious, or was he solid but the unit terrible?

Things pretty much went downhill for the team as a whole after the opening stretch when they were up 17-0. 

So I'd say it's not really his fault more than anybody else.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I couldn't watch tonight, but what the heck happened? His boxscore looks great til you see his plus minus. Was his defense atrocious, or was he solid but the unit terrible?

His units were terrible. But also consider that the Bucks have one of the more productive benches in the league. But yeah, Collins 14 minutes, Bad-Barbosa playing, Sullinger couldn't do much today, etc.

[ItStaysYang]

reduce PP minutes. Does Doc have the guts?

He wouldn't even play Darko. I doubt it.

What makes you think Darko was any good?

or not injured (wrist)?