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Very worried, but going to wait until Bradley gets back.
« on: November 29, 2012, 09:39:26 AM »

Offline ctrey

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At fifteen games in, we are getting very close to the classic twenty game mark when you can really start making judgments about a team. Last nights loss was pathetic. You simply do not let the Nets blow you out at home like that.

That said, I really believe that Bradley could drastically change the direction of the team. The team was unbelievably good when he was put in the starting line up and I think that along with his trademark defense we will see a further improvement in his scoring as well.

So I am going to still take a wait and see approach on this. Yes, at this point I am very disappointed with this team and there is no way we are getting out of the second round playing the way we are right now.

I also am beginning to think it may be time to try starting Green and letting Pierce come off the bench. Yes, Green has shown nothing but I am assuming that the Celtics saw something in him that we have not. I do not get paid to evaluate NBA talent, they do. Perhaps he would be better served starting and being in the flow from the get go. At this point the fact he is making 9 million a year and playing so badly is going to wear thin very quickly. We need to jump start Green and Pierce is clearly having trouble guarding starting players now. As you age, it is the defense that goes first on perimeter players, not offense. Pierce is getting torched out there. A switch might be the catalyst resulting in better results for both those two players and the team as a whole.

We should not be in panic mode yet. Fact is, our starting shooting guard, a guy that quite emphatically supplanted a hall of famer is not on the court yet. Let us not forget just how Bradley completely shut down all sorts of players including quite famously Dwayne Wade last year. Not just the famous block but overall. Wade was awful when playing Bradley. I have tried to find them to repost but Wade's stats in games against the Celtics last year when Bradley covered him were awful. In the famous "block" game for example , Wade was 6 for 17 and scored 15 points. He averaged 22 a game last year.

Look, there are troubles for sure. The team has not meshed the new guys all that well, except for Sullinger who has been great and clearly gets his role. The lack of size and athleticism inside is a problem. We have only one good win, knocking off OKC. This team certainly has it's troubles. I just want to give them around fifteen games after Bradley gets back in the rotation, then evaluate where we are at that point.

Seems fair, right?

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Yeah. I think this team is getting killed by dribble penetration that forces our D to collapse, leaving open shots all over the place and our bigs lose position trying to contest shots.

Let's see what happens when Avery comes back, as he is obviously one of the best on-ball defenders in the league and very well could make a world of difference. AB may be the perimeter equivalent of KG in terms of defensive importance.

We should get at least a good month (hopefully more like 6-8 weeks) of games with Bradley before DA would have to get creative before the deadline. It isn't pretty now, but I still believe this defense has the potential to be epic.

If we don't see a dramatic increase in effort (and wins) when he returns, I think DA has to make moves, and that includes everybody short of Pierce and KG IMO. I'm sure Rondo isn't going anywhere, but for the right deal I wouldn't cry over trading him either.
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When Bradley returns, the following will happen

1.) The Celtics will play better
2.) The national unemployment rate will drop to 1.3%
3.) We will discover whether the chicken or the egg came first
4.) We will find out whether there is an afterlife, aliens, ghosts and martians
5.) The hover boards from Back to the Future will return and become mainstream
6.) It will be discovered that the earth is not round or flat, but triangular.


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When Bradley returns, the following will happen

1.) The Celtics will play better
2.) The national unemployment rate will drop to 1.3%
3.) We will discover whether the chicken or the egg came first
4.) We will find out whether there is an afterlife, aliens, ghosts and martians
5.) The hover boards from Back to the Future will return and become mainstream
6.) It will be discovered that the earth is not round or flat, but triangular.

TP. When is Avery's induction ceremony in Springfield? I like the guy, but.......

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I am not worried, I root for them the same way regardless.   But I am wondering if the window didn't slam closed on us ( it's been creeping now since 2009.

Re: Very worried, but going to wait until Bradley gets back.
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 10:23:06 AM »

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When Bradley returns, the following will happen

1.) The Celtics will play better
2.) The national unemployment rate will drop to 1.3%
3.) We will discover whether the chicken or the egg came first
4.) We will find out whether there is an afterlife, aliens, ghosts and martians
5.) The hover boards from Back to the Future will return and become mainstream
6.) It will be discovered that the earth is not round or flat, but triangular.

TP. When is Avery's induction ceremony in Springfield? I like the guy, but.......

Haha me too. I like Bradley, just having some fun with the lofty Bradley expectations among fans

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 10:25:58 AM »

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When Bradley returns, the following will happen

1.) The Celtics will play better
2.) The national unemployment rate will drop to 1.3%
3.) We will discover whether the chicken or the egg came first
4.) We will find out whether there is an afterlife, aliens, ghosts and martians
5.) The hover boards from Back to the Future will return and become mainstream
6.) It will be discovered that the earth is not round or flat, but triangular.


I hear Roy H. is going to morph back into Roy Hobbs as well. 

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Getting Bradley back will not help with interior defense and rebounding. This team will only get better if Sullinger suddenly shows exponential progress.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."

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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2012, 10:39:01 AM »

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When Bradley returns, the following will happen

1.) The Celtics will play better
2.) The national unemployment rate will drop to 1.3%
3.) We will discover whether the chicken or the egg came first
4.) We will find out whether there is an afterlife, aliens, ghosts and martians
5.) The hover boards from Back to the Future will return and become mainstream
6.) It will be discovered that the earth is not round or flat, but triangular.

TP. When is Avery's induction ceremony in Springfield? I like the guy, but.......

But what? Nobody is saying he is an MVP, but that a guy who is elite at defense like he is can make a marked improvement on a team.

Wait and see. On paper this team has a ton of talent. Guys with specific roles who have a history of getting the job done. But they are not doing that now, for whatever reason.

Let's get everyone playing together before we make a major overhaul.
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BRADLEY is one of the ferw bright spots on the TEAM ....dump LEE , GREEN .....

I PRAY Danny doesn't trade AB to get better , and leave the Celtics STUCK Green and Lee.




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BRADLEY is one of the ferw bright spots on the TEAM ....dump LEE , GREEN .....

I PRAY Danny doesn't trade AB to get better , and leave the Celtics STUCK Green and Lee.

When Bradley returns, the Celtics will win the NBA Championship, World Series, Super Bowl and Stanley Cup, all at the same time

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2012, 11:12:52 AM »

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BRADLEY is one of the ferw bright spots on the TEAM ....dump LEE , GREEN .....

I PRAY Danny doesn't trade AB to get better , and leave the Celtics STUCK Green and Lee.

When Bradley returns, the Celtics will win the NBA Championship, World Series, Super Bowl and Stanley Cup, all at the same time

  They would, except for that darn hockey strike.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2012, 11:22:31 AM »

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BRADLEY is one of the ferw bright spots on the TEAM ....dump LEE , GREEN .....

I PRAY Danny doesn't trade AB to get better , and leave the Celtics STUCK Green and Lee.

When Bradley returns, the Celtics will win the NBA Championship, World Series, Super Bowl and Stanley Cup, all at the same time

  They would, except for that darn hockey strike.

Oh yeah, good point. Well, definitely count on a Super Bowl. I like Bradley's chances vs Vince Wilfork (lol)

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2012, 12:01:49 PM »

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BRADLEY is one of the ferw bright spots on the TEAM ....dump LEE , GREEN .....

I PRAY Danny doesn't trade AB to get better , and leave the Celtics STUCK Green and Lee.

When Bradley returns, the Celtics will win the NBA Championship, World Series, Super Bowl and Stanley Cup, all at the same time

  They would, except for that darn hockey strike.

Oh yeah, good point. Well, definitely count on a Super Bowl. I like Bradley's chances vs Vince Wilfork (lol)

The Pats do need help in the secondary.