Rondo suspension thread..

[StartOrien]

Here is what I don't get. Rajon Rondo 100 percent initiates an altercation that ends up in the stands putting fans, and in one case a little kid in harms way, and it seems there are many on this blog who don't think Rondo deserves a suspension. This thing ended up in the crowd and some people could have really gotten hurt. What am I missing?

Ya, come to think of it - you're 100% right, Vinnie

Old School Basketball maybe?

Clearly two different eras.

I'm not coming at the alter of justice, pleading you to think of the children; I'm just saying based on the actions he took in the modern NBA that a lengthy suspension should be expected.

Well if Bynums near decapitation of a prone and miniscule JJ Barea got him seven games then it should be a lot less than that. Two MAX.

I'll bet you a handsome sum it's more than two.

Personally, I think Bynum's is MUCH worse. But the NBA is a business, and they clearly have a problem with altercations ending up in the stands.

[crownsy]

Here is what I don't get. Rajon Rondo 100 percent initiates an altercation that ends up in the stands putting fans, and in one case a little kid in harms way, and it seems there are many on this blog who don't think Rondo deserves a suspension. This thing ended up in the crowd and some people could have really gotten hurt. What am I missing?

Ya, come to think of it - you're 100% right, Vinnie

Old School Basketball maybe?

Clearly two different eras.

I'm not coming at the alter of justice, pleading you to think of the children; I'm just saying based on the actions he took in the modern NBA that a lengthy suspension should be expected.

Well if Bynums near decapitation of a prone and miniscule JJ Barea got him seven games then it should be a lot less than that. Two MAX.

That was on the court. The rules change the minute any kind of alteration gets in among the crowd.

[vinnie]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

[Chris]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

I respect Jackie immensely, but I don't think Rondo lost control at all.  I think he did exactly what he meant to do.  I don't think he expected it to end up in the stands the way it did though. 

I think Rondo thought he would push Kardashian, he would fight back, they would get a couple technicals, and it would be done.  But it got out of hand. 

[contramundum]

Here is what I don't get. Rajon Rondo 100 percent initiates an altercation that ends up in the stands putting fans, and in one case a little kid in harms way, and it seems there are many on this blog who don't think Rondo deserves a suspension. This thing ended up in the crowd and some people could have really gotten hurt. What am I missing?

Ya, come to think of it - you're 100% right, Vinnie

Old School Basketball maybe?

Clearly two different eras.

I'm not coming at the alter of justice, pleading you to think of the children; I'm just saying based on the actions he took in the modern NBA that a lengthy suspension should be expected.

Well if Bynums near decapitation of a prone and miniscule JJ Barea got him seven games then it should be a lot less than that. Two MAX.

That was on the court. The rules change the minute any kind of alteration gets in among the crowd.

Then that suspension needs to be equal between both players, because it most certainly would not have ended up there if Mr. Kardashian hadn't grabbed Rajon's jersey.  And I know if I'm in a fight, a shirt grab is a prerequisite to a punch or being pulled to the ground. 

I think the media is blowing this thing out of proportion which will cause the suspension to be heavier.  When it happened, suspension didn't even cross my mind.  But that's what I get for being raised on 80's Celtics basketball.  I think three games is realistic, but still excessive. 

I'm really worried about this game.

[relja]

I'd say one, but because it went into the fans, there's a good chance he'll get two.
I don't think Rondo punched Humphries; it was more of a 'double-stiff-wristed-open-handed' slap to the face.

I think Gerald Wallace needs to be suspended longer, though.  He just jumped right into it and attacked KG, who had done nothing at that point.  KG didn't even fight back, he was just trying to grab Rondo.  Same for Pierce, but Reggie Evans was grabbing him.  I don't think Evans should get in trouble, but Wallace pulled an absolute bush league move on KG.  Disgusting

That's actually a great point.  It going into the fans may play a factor in a suspension decision.  I'm still sticking with 0 or 1, but excellent point.

I think the Brawl at the Palace back in '04 wouldn't have been as bad had it not escalated any further than Artest and Wallace shoving each other; however, in that case, a fan really started it with Artest by throwing that soda at him.

Heck, remember when KG elbowed Q-Rich back in '10 against the Heat?  That was right in front of the fans, too.  Now, KG deserved that one, but still, the safety of the fans is a critical part when the league reviews scruffs like these.

Safety of the fans? The most dangerous thing that can happen is losing their soda and fries.

[StartOrien]

I'd say one, but because it went into the fans, there's a good chance he'll get two.
I don't think Rondo punched Humphries; it was more of a 'double-stiff-wristed-open-handed' slap to the face.

I think Gerald Wallace needs to be suspended longer, though.  He just jumped right into it and attacked KG, who had done nothing at that point.  KG didn't even fight back, he was just trying to grab Rondo.  Same for Pierce, but Reggie Evans was grabbing him.  I don't think Evans should get in trouble, but Wallace pulled an absolute bush league move on KG.  Disgusting

That's actually a great point.  It going into the fans may play a factor in a suspension decision.  I'm still sticking with 0 or 1, but excellent point.

I think the Brawl at the Palace back in '04 wouldn't have been as bad had it not escalated any further than Artest and Wallace shoving each other; however, in that case, a fan really started it with Artest by throwing that soda at him.

Heck, remember when KG elbowed Q-Rich back in '10 against the Heat?  That was right in front of the fans, too.  Now, KG deserved that one, but still, the safety of the fans is a critical part when the league reviews scruffs like these.

Safety of the fans? The most dangerous thing that can happen is losing their soda and fries.

That's like 47 dollars worth of food gone to waste!

[scaryjerry]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

Shes a rondo detractor....period. has been for a while. Shes one of those he plays with 3 hall of fakers doesn't count kinds frauds...shes clueless nowadays if you ask me

As if her hero bird didn't engage in shoving matches...waaaaaaah here's a tissue Jackie you've gone soft

[Roy H.]

Safety of the fans? The most dangerous thing that can happen is losing their soda and fries.

How do you figure?  When 200 pound guys are pushing and shoving and falling down, how is there not a potential of physical danger to fans?

[Rondo2287]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

Shes a rondo detractor....period.

As if her hero bird didn't engage in shoving matches

To quote Bill Belichick, "Do business as business is being done."

Shoving was ok in Birds day, its not anymore therefor the bird thing doesnt really hold too much water with me. 

[scaryjerry]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

Shes a rondo detractor....period.

As if her hero bird didn't engage in shoving matches

To quote Bill Belichick, "Do business as business is being done."

Shoving was ok in Birds day, its not anymore therefor the bird thing doesnt really hold too much water with me.

Agreed actually just she needs to get off her moral high horse..pleeeease. he made a mistake...shes a rondo detractor and rondo detractors couldn't be more pleased with this oppurtunity to jump all over him and call him immature

[Chris]

Jackie M. ripping Rondo for his immaturity and lack of control and ripping the team big time on WEEI right now.

Shes a rondo detractor....period. has been for a while. Shes one of those he plays with 3 hall of fakers doesn't count kinds frauds...shes clueless nowadays if you ask me

As if her hero bird didn't engage in shoving matches...waaaaaaah here's a tissue Jackie you've gone soft

Actually, I thought her piece on Rondo last year was actually defending him quite a bit, while still being honest about his quirks. 

[contramundum]

Safety of the fans? The most dangerous thing that can happen is losing their soda and fries.

How do you figure?  When 200 pound guys are pushing and shoving and falling down, how is there not a potential of physical danger to fans?

Again, someone tell me how that is any different that diving into the stands for a loose ball?  I think if you sit court side, there is some personal responsibility involved.  Take care of yourself and be aware and ready to take care of someone a little more fragile if need be.  Fighting, hustle plays, tripping, heck - even a ball can mess up a fan.  Of course if you get hit by a ball, Kevin Durant might come and give you a kiss.

[CelticHooligan3]

Here is what I don't get. Rajon Rondo 100 percent initiates an altercation that ends up in the stands putting fans, and in one case a little kid in harms way, and it seems there are many on this blog who don't think Rondo deserves a suspension. This thing ended up in the crowd and some people could have really gotten hurt. What am I missing?

Ya, come to think of it - you're 100% right, Vinnie

Old School Basketball maybe?

Clearly two different eras.

I'm not coming at the alter of justice, pleading you to think of the children; I'm just saying based on the actions he took in the modern NBA that a lengthy suspension should be expected.

Well if Bynums near decapitation of a prone and miniscule JJ Barea got him seven games then it should be a lot less than that. Two MAX.

I'll bet you a handsome sum it's more than two.

Personally, I think Bynum's is MUCH worse. But the NBA is a business, and they clearly have a problem with altercations ending up in the stands.

I agree on both counts. Bynums shot being a heck of a lot worse. And the fact most likely it will be more than two games. I don't think thats right however. One or two is more deserved.

[Chris]

Safety of the fans? The most dangerous thing that can happen is losing their soda and fries.

How do you figure?  When 200 pound guys are pushing and shoving and falling down, how is there not a potential of physical danger to fans?

Again, someone tell me how that is any different that diving into the stands for a loose ball?  I think if you sit court side, there is some personal responsibility involved.  Take care of yourself and be aware and ready to take care of someone a little more fragile if need be.  Fighting, hustle plays, tripping, heck - even a ball can mess up a fan.  Of course if you get hit by a ball, Kevin Durant might come and give you a kiss.

Its different because its not part of the game.  And frankly, that is where the courts would have an issue.  Fans take on the risk of players going into the stands as part of the game, they don't take on the risk of players going into the stands to fight.  If someone gets hurt, that presents a HUGE liability for the league.