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Bradley or Sully: Who do you trade?
« on: November 27, 2012, 01:52:58 PM »

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Sully...and i'll tell you why...i like both of them...but...bradley has higher upside...and...i'll tell you why...bradley is already a lock-down defender...that means he is already great in one category...his handle is avg with a little upside...shooting and attacking the hole are good with more upside...sully will prob be good to very good at rebounding and inside scoring...but...i don't think he'll ever be great at one thing...think about it like this...great players have at least one great skill that they complement with other skills that are good...they can make a difference in a game and change a game because they have a great skill to fall back on

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 01:55:54 PM »

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Who are the Celtics getting back?


What other pieces are also going out?


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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 02:04:56 PM »

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Sully but the more i think about it the more id rather just keep everyone. Wait till ab comes back, sign  KMART or Birdman and call it a day.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 02:08:57 PM »

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Who are the Celtics getting back?


What other pieces are also going out?

Exactly. It depends so much on the trade itself. You can't say one player definitively for every trade.


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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 02:10:15 PM »

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I'm not looking to trade anyone just for the sake of it, but Bradley is way higher on my list of keepers than Sullinger. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 02:23:36 PM »

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It all comes down to the package we get in return. And whatever can net us a better player/fill a bigger need. I think we are going to see one of two deals happen.

Bradley, Bass, and picks

or

Lee, Sully and picks

I feel that both SGs (Lee and Bradley) and both PFs (Bass and Sully) give us equal production and can adapt to our strengths no matter what we end up with. Im guessing we will trade on young, and one vet.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 02:24:42 PM »

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I rate Bradley higher than Sullinger without knowing anything about the details of such a trade.

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 02:36:40 PM »

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Depends on the contract being shipped out with him, but I would give Sullinger up before I gave Bradley up.

I still think Sullinger has an outside chance to be the better player. Kevin Love has made me a believer that a guy like Sully can be an All-NBAer. But I really love AB's ability to play D wade straight up.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 02:50:01 PM »

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Sully, but it would be painful to let him go.

Thing is that Bradley is the same age as Sully pretty much, but he's already been with the team 2 years - better chemistry.

At his age he is also already an elite (top 5) perimeter defender in the NBA.  Sully is a very good rebounder, and a capable scorer, but he's not top 10 at either yet.

Also Bradley is exceptionally athletic, and athletic guys usually have greater upside - Bradley running the floor with Rondo for example is like magic.

Finally while Bradley might be undersized for a SG, Sully is also undersized at PF.  Difference is that Bradley plays bigger than he is - he can play multiple positions effectively and can defend guys 2"-3" taller than him.  Sully is really only effective at PF and struggles against bigger opponents on both ends of the floor.

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2012, 02:55:19 PM »

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I'd give up Bradley.

Sully has a much higher basketball IQ and does a lot more of the little things that help a team win games. Bradley is good at one thing and one thing only and that's man defense; Sully will make the extra pass, use his body to box out and rebound, make smart cuts to the basket... He has more range on his jumper than Bradley as well.

Lockdown defenders come and go but finding a basketball player as smart as Sully at such a young age is hard to do. Sully has boundless potential, very likely to be the next Paul Millsap. Bradley at best is Tony Allen with a corner 3. Give me the heady, all-around talent to the defensive specialist all day every day.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2012, 03:03:27 PM »

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I'd give up Bradley.

Sully has a much higher basketball IQ and does a lot more of the little things that help a team win games. Bradley is good at one thing and one thing only and that's man defense; Sully will make the extra pass, use his body to box out and rebound, make smart cuts to the basket... He has more range on his jumper than Bradley as well.

Lockdown defenders come and go but finding a basketball player as smart as Sully at such a young age is hard to do. Sully has boundless potential, very likely to be the next Paul Millsap. Bradley at best is Tony Allen with a corner 3. Give me the heady, all-around talent to the defensive specialist all day every day.

Best of luck with your career, AB, hope things work out for the best.

Well, bradley isn't just GOOD at defense, hes excellent, elite, superb, one of the best in the game. Sully is good at some things but he isnt great at anything or elite. He can be replaced alot easier than bradley can. Also, defensive players like AB do not just come and go i assure you lol.

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2012, 03:03:42 PM »

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Sully has a much higher basketball IQ and does a lot more of the little things that help a team win games. Bradley is good at one thing and one thing only and that's man defense; Sully will make the extra pass, use his body to box out and rebound, make smart cuts to the basket... He has more range on his jumper than Bradley as well.
Your list confuses me.

Bradley isn't a ball stopper either, he'll pass the ball.

Bradley is an aggressive cutter, far more effective than Sullinger is in that role.

Bradley also was solid at hitting the corner three and his 2 point jump shots percentage is better than Sullinger's. Sullinger is only shooting around 33% on his jump shots. Their TS% (AVery's last year and Sullinger's this year) are almost identical.

Sullinger is a better rebounder certainly.

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2012, 03:09:41 PM »

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Neither. Sully was a steal, and AB will be a key piece for this team in the future, if not this year.

I want them to win it all this year like the rest of you, but I don't think anyone that we could get(right now) outweighs the potential these two guys have. If we trade any of these two and don't win it all, I would lose a lot of faith in Danny.

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 03:10:55 PM »

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It would depend on the actual trade, but in  general, Bradley is much more valuable.

In fact, as a general rule I'd say this if I were Danny Ainge: If you want Bradley, you have to take Jeff Green too.

Then again, Doc and Danny, inexplicably, like Jeff Green, despite the fact that he's a below average player.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 03:12:26 PM »

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Sullinger is a nice backup power forward thats all. There is very little upside when you are chubby un-athletic undersized power-forward. I can see him being same player ten years from now that he is now. A solid player but nothing special.

Avery is a defensive superstar already. And we saw flashes what he is capable of on offense. Potential could become hybrid between Tony Allen (defense) and Russel Westbrook (offense).

 

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