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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2012, 08:07:45 AM »

I don't know why, but Pervis Ellison just popped into my mind.  Freakishly athletic, Center, 6'9"...drafted #1.

Sometimes athletically competent (although I consider a big man who can run the floor, can jump, and has quick lateral movement to be athletically gifted), legit. 7' with long arms, healthy, can run the court is worth more than the highest accolades. Body building, if that is what is called for, and I am not sure that it is, can be added later. Both Kareem and Chief used martial arts rather than weight lifting to stay healthy, inshape, and limber. As someone said, the amount of running necessary to play soccer should make him well able to handle the up and down of basketball (and so far that seems to be the case).
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2012, 08:33:17 AM »

Martial arts do not build a lot of strength, some but not as much as lifting.   You can get strength without building bulk.   Have you ever worked out?   I am guessing no.   

Bruce Lee was a great martist artist and he lifted.  He knew it helps and he was hardly slow.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/bruce-lees-workout-284561/

As for Chief and Kareem this isn't the 80's.  The games have changed, people work out all the time.   KG and PP lift weights are they muscle bound.  This is not the stone ages anymore.  It will help Melo to do so.


http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2007/09/04/garnett_sweating_details/


It is a myth that lifting makes you a muscle bound and slow.   These guys have trainers that prevent that.  Even sprinters lift and most Olympians for each sport.

http://truthonhealth.org/challenge-steps/fitclub34-challenge/

Get with the modern age, all pros lift.  It helps people to lift.   It will help Melo, he is weak in this area and it will make it stronger.

Ask some of the guys here who have played ball past biddy ball, in big high school programs, college programs or some form of pros.   I bet they lifted, it was mandatory for me at many of these levels.
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2012, 09:06:24 AM »

Martial arts do not build a lot of strength, some but not as much as lifting.   You can get strength without building bulk.   Have you ever worked out?   I am guessing no.   

Bruce Lee was a great martist artist and he lifted.  He knew it helps and he was hardly slow.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/bruce-lees-workout-284561/

As for Chief and Kareem this isn't the 80's.  The games have changed, people work out all the time.   KG and PP lift weights are they muscle bound.  This is not the stone ages anymore.  It will help Melo to do so.


http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2007/09/04/garnett_sweating_details/


It is a myth that lifting makes you a muscle bound and slow.   These guys have trainers that prevent that.  Even sprinters lift and most Olympians for each sport.

http://truthonhealth.org/challenge-steps/fitclub34-challenge/

Get with the modern age, all pros lift.  It helps people to lift.   It will help Melo, he is weak in this area and it will make it stronger.

Ask some of the guys here who have played ball past biddy ball, in big high school programs, college programs or some form of pros.   I bet they lifted, it was mandatory for me at many of these levels.
ha ha ha. My dear Celtics4ever:  You may not think much of my knowledge of "working out"...but for your edification and so that you can dismiss my opinion on another level, I am a 66 year old female who has always been active and yes, I have  "worked out" although I don't now. Have you ever accepeted the opinion of one who might not agree with you?  "I think not."  I believe I said that weight lifting can be added if necessary.  Everyone does not start lifting at a young age.   And, incidentally, Kareem and Chief would still be top level centers if they played today.  (They may very well have lifted weights too, I don't pretend to know. I do know that they were into martial arts.)  Were you around to see the 80's teams?
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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2012, 09:09:01 AM »

Lifting can be whatever you design the program to be really.
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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2012, 12:24:52 PM »

Martial arts do not build a lot of strength, some but not as much as lifting.   You can get strength without building bulk.   Have you ever worked out?   I am guessing no.   

Bruce Lee was a great martist artist and he lifted.  He knew it helps and he was hardly slow.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/bruce-lees-workout-284561/

As for Chief and Kareem this isn't the 80's.  The games have changed, people work out all the time.   KG and PP lift weights are they muscle bound.  This is not the stone ages anymore.  It will help Melo to do so.


http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2007/09/04/garnett_sweating_details/


It is a myth that lifting makes you a muscle bound and slow.   These guys have trainers that prevent that.  Even sprinters lift and most Olympians for each sport.

http://truthonhealth.org/challenge-steps/fitclub34-challenge/

Get with the modern age, all pros lift.  It helps people to lift.   It will help Melo, he is weak in this area and it will make it stronger.

Ask some of the guys here who have played ball past biddy ball, in big high school programs, college programs or some form of pros.   I bet they lifted, it was mandatory for me at many of these levels.

I have no doubt that some form of strength training is included in Fab's regimen. 
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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2012, 01:16:00 PM »

I dont get the strength topic at all, he has way more important stuff to improve then his body.
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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2012, 01:25:13 PM »

FWIW I weight train and for the past two years have taken Kung Fu.  My strength (as measured by how much I lift) is significantly lower since I started kung fu. I am not a professional and only can allocate so much of my free time to activities - so I do spend less time in the gym, but the martial arts hasn't helped maintain my strength.  It has signifcantly improved my balance and opposite handside coordination/dexterity.
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