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Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« on: November 26, 2012, 03:44:02 PM »

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 Rondo's APG average is at 13.7... the record for the regular season is held by John Stockton at 14.5.

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 03:49:20 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 03:58:27 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.
rondo is too smart to "pad."

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 04:08:15 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.
rondo is too smart to "pad."

This.

He average 3 TO's a game. It's not pretty but that's few enough to tell everyone that he's not just trying to hard to "get the assists". The plenty assists is a result of him really finding guys in position to score. Not because he's trying too hard.
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 04:14:07 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.
rondo is too smart to "pad."

"too smart to pad"?  That makes no sense... or please elaborate what you mean by that.  He already pads all the time by turning down easy shot attempts or stealing rebounds from teammates when in pursuit of a triple double.
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 04:17:51 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 04:20:35 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?
He's going to say something like passing up shots for a pass. watch.

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 04:21:40 PM »

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I've seen Rondo miss enough layups to think it's not a completely crazy idea that he may sometimes just be more comfortable giving up the ball to a teammate and isn't necessarily trying to pad his assist numbers.
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 04:21:59 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?
He's going to say something like passing up shots for a pass. watch.

No need, you just did for me.  So you must acknowledge that you've heard of players doing this before.  If you don't think Rondo is the type of player who would, that's your opinion.  My opinion is that he would.
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Jeff Teague, Paul George, Trevor Ariza, Chuck Hayes, Channing Frye
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 04:23:15 PM »

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I've seen Rondo miss enough layups to think it's not a completely crazy idea that he may sometimes just be more comfortable giving up the ball to a teammate and isn't necessarily trying to pad his assist numbers.

I'd say it's a pretty crazy idea that a player who some deem to be MVP worthy would feel more comfortable kicking the ball out because he's not confident in his ability to make layups.
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 04:23:31 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

"considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years"

Right, because he's all about himself and doesn't care about whether the team wins or loses. Nothing says that more than getting his elbow dislocated and playing through it anyway because we were in the playoffs...
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Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 04:24:29 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?
He's going to say something like passing up shots for a pass. watch.

No need, you just did for me.  So you must acknowledge that you've heard of players doing this before.  If you don't think Rondo is the type of player who would, that's your opinion.  My opinion is that he would.
rondo has a FG% of over 50%.... and is taking more attempts than CP3. Is that the statistic of someone who is smart with the ball, or someone who is passing up shots for a pass?

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 04:35:42 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?
He's going to say something like passing up shots for a pass. watch.

No need, you just did for me.  So you must acknowledge that you've heard of players doing this before.  If you don't think Rondo is the type of player who would, that's your opinion.  My opinion is that he would.
rondo has a FG% of over 50%.... and is taking more attempts than CP3. Is that the statistic of someone who is smart with the ball, or someone who is passing up shots for a pass?

And he's averaging 13.5ppg, just 0.2 shy of his regular season career high. I wonder sometimes if people would be happy with Rondo if he just jacked up 22+ shots a game - old school Carmelo style.
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Ainge had mentioned he expects Rondo to get paid 'star money.' On that subject, Rondo said, 'I'm making star money now, really. Its a pretty good living. I'll let my agent handle those terms.'

You have to be good before you can be great. Build a team instead of tearing it down.

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 04:44:00 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

How exactly can throwing the ball to his teammates to score points hurt the team?
He's going to say something like passing up shots for a pass. watch.

No need, you just did for me.  So you must acknowledge that you've heard of players doing this before.  If you don't think Rondo is the type of player who would, that's your opinion.  My opinion is that he would.

So he doesn't lay it up, but he sends it out to KG for a jumper? Difference?

Re: Rondo chasing Stockton's 14.5 APG record
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 04:44:26 PM »

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I truly hope that this becomes too out of sight at some point this season because Rondo's stat padding will hurt this team's win total considerably and I have absolutely zero doubts in my mind, considering what I've seen from Rondo over the past few years, that he will go to stat padding if he's close.

I want wins, not stat records.

  Since the start of the 09-10 season, we're 89-29 when Rondo has more than 10 assists, 64-62 when he doesn't. I'm all for "stat padding".

 

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