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Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« on: November 26, 2012, 12:32:06 PM »
It's Hoopsworld, so take it with a grain of salt. I think it's true though.

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The Boston Celtics at one point or another have expressed interest in Gasol, but they wouldnít offer much in return for him, so a deal to or through Boston is highly unlikely. The Celtics do have a surplus of perimeter scorers and thatís something the Lakers are looking for and the Celtics do lack size in the front court, but sources say there is almost no interest in a deal from Bostonís side, the economics donít work.

As I would expect Gasol has little value - not for his play - due to his deal.

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The Lakers have explored this situation for the last two years and have a strong understanding of what Gasolís worth is in trade Ė and itís not much, because of what his contract represents in the new NBA economy.

Gasol has two more seasons left on his deal for $19 million season this year and a $19.28 million season next year. Thatís hardly an attractive number especially for a team playing for anything, because those teams are at the luxury tax line or already over it.

LA will move him though if they get a deal that is fair for them.

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There is little doubt that if the Lakers could get value for Gasol theyíd trade him, they have kicked the tires enough to make that almost inevitable, the problem is that as much as moving Gasol and his contract would benefit the Lakers, there simply isnít much of a market for him. That could change at the trade deadline when the Lakers have paid the bulk of Gasolís contract, but in reality the Lakers are not actively trying to trade Gasol, they simply want him to play better and now that structure is starting to flow into the Lakers, maybe Gasol can find the consistency thatís been lacking thatís caused all of the chatter about his future.

Bass, Lee, and Green would be the only deal I can see that makes sense for LA and works financially. Still all those deals run longer then Pau's deal does so LA might not have interest. We likely wouldn't send any prospects for a guy with that contract on the wrong side of 30. Yet, all of those guys really fit LA's system well.

We would have to be able to sign Pietrus in my opinion to replace to Green. Bradley replaces Lee when he gets back. Pau obviously replaces Bass.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 12:36:27 PM »
I think the article is refering to previous seasons in which we expressed interest in Gasol. Remember the Gasol - Rondo hoopla and what not.

It appears that our interest in Gasol is over for many reason. Bass, Lee, and Green is a lot to give up for Gasol. Plus, we would basically seem to renting him for the rest of this season and then next season. He is great, but is getting older and is due for a new contract. I dont think we want to lock up an over 30 player for big money when we already have KG.
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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 12:37:48 PM »
I think the article is refering to previous seasons in which we expressed interest in Gasol. Remember the Gasol - Rondo hoopla and what not.

It appears that our interest in Gasol is over for many reason. Bass, Lee, and Green is a lot to give up for Gasol. Plus, we would basically seem to renting him for the rest of this season and then next season. He is great, but is getting older and is due for a new contract. I dont think we want to lock up an over 30 player for big money when we already have KG.

I doubt we lock him up. His run with us likely ends when KG and Pierce's run does. Agree though that it probably stems from last season as well. I could see these teams talking again before the deadline however.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 12:39:42 PM »
Yeah, I think this is just regurgitating year+ old rumors about the C's and Gasol.  Unless they are going to trade Pierce or KG, the numbers just don't really work. 

I do disagree with the notion that Gasol doesn't have a lot of value.  Yes, his contract does make it tougher for teams to match, but that is a hurdle that can be jumped by many teams in the league. 

Now, the Lakers may value Gasol more than other teams do, which would be an issue.  But I expect if Gasol is traded, it will be for a pretty significant haul. 

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 12:42:01 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 12:46:08 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

I believe Lee, Bass, and Green would get it done economically.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 12:51:43 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

I believe Lee, Bass, and Green would get it done economically.

Whether or not it's worth it is an entirely different question. I say no, especially because we could get the younger Josh Smith (sorry) for less... Lee, Bass, Sully, and a pick, maybe.
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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 12:53:17 PM »
Really, the deal that makes the most sense would be Pierce and Bradley for Gasol. Lets Green get major minutes at the 3, and takes him away from the four and gives us a deadly combo up front.

Rondo/Barbosa
Terry/Lee
Green/(Joesph?)
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Gasol/Wilcox

It gives us a great line up and definitely addresses major issues. However, I HATE it. No way do I give up Pierce. I dont think we will hear many Gasol to Boston rumors this year.
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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 12:57:01 PM »
Really, the deal that makes the most sense would be Pierce and Bradley for Gasol. Lets Green get major minutes at the 3, and takes him away from the four and gives us a deadly combo up front.

Rondo/Barbosa
Terry/Lee
Green/(Joesph?)
KG/Bass/Sully
Gasol/Wilcox

It gives us a great line up and definitely addresses major issues. However, I HATE it. No way do I give up Pierce. I dont think we will hear many Gasol to Boston rumors this year.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 01:00:34 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

I believe Lee, Bass, and Green would get it done economically.

Yeah, but then I think its a no-go for either team.  Its a lot of future salary for mediocre production for LA, and its opening up too many new holes for the C's. 

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 01:08:34 PM »
Gasol is like a good used luxury car.  Still plenty of miles left , but no way will ever get the salary he is getting now.

They want to dump him before his value drops too much , I'd make em keep him another year .

They figure they would be better off with a pair of up and comming forwards that require ALOT less salary , so they can replace NASH soon to with a quality star guard.

I would rather keep an eye on Cousins status, he is loose cannon.  He could really do all the things the Celtics need inside.  Rather have Josh SMith than Gasol , unless Gasol could be had CHEAP .......like for GREEN and LEE.


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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 01:20:35 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

I believe Lee, Bass, and Green would get it done economically.

At first, I didn't like the idea of us giving the Fakers what they need (depth) at the expense of our strength (depth).

However, if we are in win-now mode (i.e., the next two years), this lineup is hard to dislike:

RR/Barbosa
AB/Jet
PP/Joseph/Pietrus?
KG/Sully/KMart?
Gasol/Wilcox

Don't like giving up our depth and future(Green), but if we are in a win-now mode and future-be-[dang]ed, this  deal deserves a long hard look.

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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 01:24:05 PM »
If Minnesota offered a pupu platter of role players and draft picks, would their offer look better than anything the Celtics would give up?
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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 01:25:52 PM »
we also have interest in Dwight Howard, a 30 year old Shaq, and a fully healthy Greg Oden
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Re: Celtics Have Expressed Interest in Gasol - HW rumor
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 01:40:23 PM »
We'd have to send out somewhere between $17 million and $18 million in salary to bring Gasol back.  That's a lot to come up with.

I believe Lee, Bass, and Green would get it done economically.

Yeah, but then I think its a no-go for either team.  Its a lot of future salary for mediocre production for LA, and its opening up too many new holes for the C's.
New holes?  Boston is trading 3 backups for a greatly improved starting lineup.  I think Boston would have to make that trade if it was out as it clearly upgrades Boston's starting unit (and it shaves years in salary on the back end). 

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SG - Bradley, Terry
SF - Pierce, Pietrus?
PF - Gasol, Sullinger
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I think this team is much closer to a title than the one Boston currently has and since this is an old team you make that move and don't give it a second thought.


I also think it improves L.A. title chances as well since they have no depth and thus they might actually make the trade.  Also, it will also be easier for them to move any one of the 3 going forward if they need to, then to try to move Gasol.

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