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Id doAB and Bass or Sullinger and Lee
Quote from: angryguy77 on November 19, 2012, 02:02:39 PMNot AB. The only way the trade would be worth it is if we win it all this year. Does Gortat give us that big of an advantage? I don't think so.We have size on this team, Doc just needs to let his love for small ball go.Yes he does.KG and Gortat can control the boards against Miami. They can close the paint for drivers.
Not AB. The only way the trade would be worth it is if we win it all this year. Does Gortat give us that big of an advantage? I don't think so.We have size on this team, Doc just needs to let his love for small ball go.
Quote from: wdleehi on November 19, 2012, 02:03:54 PMQuote from: angryguy77 on November 19, 2012, 02:02:39 PMNot AB. The only way the trade would be worth it is if we win it all this year. Does Gortat give us that big of an advantage? I don't think so.We have size on this team, Doc just needs to let his love for small ball go.Yes he does.KG and Gortat can control the boards against Miami. They can close the paint for drivers. Somewhat they can, but not if they have to constantly leave their man to help out on Wade abusing Barbosa and exhausting Rondo
Quote from: ronaldo943 on November 19, 2012, 02:07:06 PMId doAB and Bass or Sullinger and LeeThat would be nice if they want Lee. He seems to have a very low bball iq.
Quote from: pearljammer10 on November 19, 2012, 01:57:55 PMQuote from: crownsy on November 19, 2012, 12:24:47 PMQuote from: Kane3387 on November 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PMQuoteOrlando, Dallas, Boston and Chicago are very interested in Marcin Gortat. http://nba.przegladsportowy.pl/Koszykowka-NBA-Marcin-Gortat-moze-opuscic-Phoenix-Suns,artykul,151832,2,299.htmlSaw the above on Hoopshype.This is from ESPN (Insider)QuoteThe Suns' predicamentBefore the season started, ESPN's own John Hollinger pegged Phoenix to finish No. 15 in the Western Conference in 2012-13. That's dead last to you and me.So it doesn't take a team of experts to tell you that this Suns' team simply don't have the look of a contender. Thus, we have to believe the Suns' brass might have to decide whether dealing Gortat, whose value is at an all-time high, could be the only way this team improves.It's not that simple, though. Gortat is one of the team's best players, he plays a premium position, and he's one of the league's best bargains -- owed $7,258,960 this season and $7,727,280 in 2013-14.The Suns certainly don't have to trade him, but if they keep him they'll have to do so with the idea that they'll be able to re-sign him to a long-term deal, however expensive it might be. Keep in mind what Roy Hibbert (four-years, $58 million) and JaVale McGee (four-years, $44 million) signed for as restricted free agents this past offseason.That said, here are five possible trade partners with Phoenix for Gortat:Quote1. Boston Celtics | Gortat for Avery Bradley and Courtney LeeNo team makes as much sense as Boston, which badly needs a big man to pair with Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt before the window of opportunity closes in the KG/Paul Pierce era. The Celtics have as many tradeable young talents as any playoff-caliber team, and though they've been very reluctant to include young defensive star Avery Bradley in any deal, they may have to in order to coax Gortat out of the Suns. Bradley would be exactly what the Suns are looking for if they have to move Gortat -- a young, hard-working shooting guard who can come in and fill a position of need.I like the polish hammer, but I'm not trading our best defensive SG and another defensive backup for a rotation caliber big man.Now, if it was Lee and someone....mabeyRotation Caliber big man? Seriously. Gortat averages a double double with 3 blocks a game. That is EXACTLY what we need in the middle. A legit center who wont require the offense to run through him but will still score, can run the floor, and can defend the bucket.Gortat has been number 2 behind Josh Smith on my wish list for weeks because he fits such a huge need. Dealing Bradley and Lee? I dont think we would deal both of them, one or the other definitely. But I would give up just as much for Gortat as I would for Smith. And if it took both Bradley and Lee I would do it in a heart beat. There is no reason that Terry and Barbosa cant handle the SG spot together.Rondo/BarbosaTerry/BarbosaPierce/GreenKG/Bass/SullyGortat/WilcoxI think this is great because currently, our best lineup consists of Pierce and Green in the game together at the 2 and the 3. We could play rondo, Pierce, Green, KG, and Gortat in spurts.Also, who knows how effective Bradley will be coming off of a double shoulder surgery. Id take the establish vet at our greatest weakness over a third year unproven commodity anyday.Yes, rotation caliber big man. Where has he gone that he has ever shown consistant dominance? he's 30, not 25.When Howard was hurt in Orlando, people expected him to have these huge breakout games, instead he pretty much did in that role what he did off the bench. got garbage points, good rebounder, good defender. He's a very, very nice player. I would love to have him, but he's not some dominate big man in the league. He's solid, and we need a solid presence in the middle, but not at the expense of both our defensive SG's, one of whom looks like a defensive stud with a possable high upside.I'd be 100% behind bringing Gortat here, but I'd much prefer the Sully or bass + others packages that have been posted.
Quote from: crownsy on November 19, 2012, 12:24:47 PMQuote from: Kane3387 on November 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PMQuoteOrlando, Dallas, Boston and Chicago are very interested in Marcin Gortat. http://nba.przegladsportowy.pl/Koszykowka-NBA-Marcin-Gortat-moze-opuscic-Phoenix-Suns,artykul,151832,2,299.htmlSaw the above on Hoopshype.This is from ESPN (Insider)QuoteThe Suns' predicamentBefore the season started, ESPN's own John Hollinger pegged Phoenix to finish No. 15 in the Western Conference in 2012-13. That's dead last to you and me.So it doesn't take a team of experts to tell you that this Suns' team simply don't have the look of a contender. Thus, we have to believe the Suns' brass might have to decide whether dealing Gortat, whose value is at an all-time high, could be the only way this team improves.It's not that simple, though. Gortat is one of the team's best players, he plays a premium position, and he's one of the league's best bargains -- owed $7,258,960 this season and $7,727,280 in 2013-14.The Suns certainly don't have to trade him, but if they keep him they'll have to do so with the idea that they'll be able to re-sign him to a long-term deal, however expensive it might be. Keep in mind what Roy Hibbert (four-years, $58 million) and JaVale McGee (four-years, $44 million) signed for as restricted free agents this past offseason.That said, here are five possible trade partners with Phoenix for Gortat:Quote1. Boston Celtics | Gortat for Avery Bradley and Courtney LeeNo team makes as much sense as Boston, which badly needs a big man to pair with Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt before the window of opportunity closes in the KG/Paul Pierce era. The Celtics have as many tradeable young talents as any playoff-caliber team, and though they've been very reluctant to include young defensive star Avery Bradley in any deal, they may have to in order to coax Gortat out of the Suns. Bradley would be exactly what the Suns are looking for if they have to move Gortat -- a young, hard-working shooting guard who can come in and fill a position of need.I like the polish hammer, but I'm not trading our best defensive SG and another defensive backup for a rotation caliber big man.Now, if it was Lee and someone....mabeyRotation Caliber big man? Seriously. Gortat averages a double double with 3 blocks a game. That is EXACTLY what we need in the middle. A legit center who wont require the offense to run through him but will still score, can run the floor, and can defend the bucket.Gortat has been number 2 behind Josh Smith on my wish list for weeks because he fits such a huge need. Dealing Bradley and Lee? I dont think we would deal both of them, one or the other definitely. But I would give up just as much for Gortat as I would for Smith. And if it took both Bradley and Lee I would do it in a heart beat. There is no reason that Terry and Barbosa cant handle the SG spot together.Rondo/BarbosaTerry/BarbosaPierce/GreenKG/Bass/SullyGortat/WilcoxI think this is great because currently, our best lineup consists of Pierce and Green in the game together at the 2 and the 3. We could play rondo, Pierce, Green, KG, and Gortat in spurts.Also, who knows how effective Bradley will be coming off of a double shoulder surgery. Id take the establish vet at our greatest weakness over a third year unproven commodity anyday.
Quote from: Kane3387 on November 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PMQuoteOrlando, Dallas, Boston and Chicago are very interested in Marcin Gortat. http://nba.przegladsportowy.pl/Koszykowka-NBA-Marcin-Gortat-moze-opuscic-Phoenix-Suns,artykul,151832,2,299.htmlSaw the above on Hoopshype.This is from ESPN (Insider)QuoteThe Suns' predicamentBefore the season started, ESPN's own John Hollinger pegged Phoenix to finish No. 15 in the Western Conference in 2012-13. That's dead last to you and me.So it doesn't take a team of experts to tell you that this Suns' team simply don't have the look of a contender. Thus, we have to believe the Suns' brass might have to decide whether dealing Gortat, whose value is at an all-time high, could be the only way this team improves.It's not that simple, though. Gortat is one of the team's best players, he plays a premium position, and he's one of the league's best bargains -- owed $7,258,960 this season and $7,727,280 in 2013-14.The Suns certainly don't have to trade him, but if they keep him they'll have to do so with the idea that they'll be able to re-sign him to a long-term deal, however expensive it might be. Keep in mind what Roy Hibbert (four-years, $58 million) and JaVale McGee (four-years, $44 million) signed for as restricted free agents this past offseason.That said, here are five possible trade partners with Phoenix for Gortat:Quote1. Boston Celtics | Gortat for Avery Bradley and Courtney LeeNo team makes as much sense as Boston, which badly needs a big man to pair with Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt before the window of opportunity closes in the KG/Paul Pierce era. The Celtics have as many tradeable young talents as any playoff-caliber team, and though they've been very reluctant to include young defensive star Avery Bradley in any deal, they may have to in order to coax Gortat out of the Suns. Bradley would be exactly what the Suns are looking for if they have to move Gortat -- a young, hard-working shooting guard who can come in and fill a position of need.I like the polish hammer, but I'm not trading our best defensive SG and another defensive backup for a rotation caliber big man.Now, if it was Lee and someone....mabey
QuoteOrlando, Dallas, Boston and Chicago are very interested in Marcin Gortat. http://nba.przegladsportowy.pl/Koszykowka-NBA-Marcin-Gortat-moze-opuscic-Phoenix-Suns,artykul,151832,2,299.htmlSaw the above on Hoopshype.This is from ESPN (Insider)QuoteThe Suns' predicamentBefore the season started, ESPN's own John Hollinger pegged Phoenix to finish No. 15 in the Western Conference in 2012-13. That's dead last to you and me.So it doesn't take a team of experts to tell you that this Suns' team simply don't have the look of a contender. Thus, we have to believe the Suns' brass might have to decide whether dealing Gortat, whose value is at an all-time high, could be the only way this team improves.It's not that simple, though. Gortat is one of the team's best players, he plays a premium position, and he's one of the league's best bargains -- owed $7,258,960 this season and $7,727,280 in 2013-14.The Suns certainly don't have to trade him, but if they keep him they'll have to do so with the idea that they'll be able to re-sign him to a long-term deal, however expensive it might be. Keep in mind what Roy Hibbert (four-years, $58 million) and JaVale McGee (four-years, $44 million) signed for as restricted free agents this past offseason.That said, here are five possible trade partners with Phoenix for Gortat:Quote1. Boston Celtics | Gortat for Avery Bradley and Courtney LeeNo team makes as much sense as Boston, which badly needs a big man to pair with Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt before the window of opportunity closes in the KG/Paul Pierce era. The Celtics have as many tradeable young talents as any playoff-caliber team, and though they've been very reluctant to include young defensive star Avery Bradley in any deal, they may have to in order to coax Gortat out of the Suns. Bradley would be exactly what the Suns are looking for if they have to move Gortat -- a young, hard-working shooting guard who can come in and fill a position of need.
Orlando, Dallas, Boston and Chicago are very interested in Marcin Gortat.
The Suns' predicamentBefore the season started, ESPN's own John Hollinger pegged Phoenix to finish No. 15 in the Western Conference in 2012-13. That's dead last to you and me.So it doesn't take a team of experts to tell you that this Suns' team simply don't have the look of a contender. Thus, we have to believe the Suns' brass might have to decide whether dealing Gortat, whose value is at an all-time high, could be the only way this team improves.It's not that simple, though. Gortat is one of the team's best players, he plays a premium position, and he's one of the league's best bargains -- owed $7,258,960 this season and $7,727,280 in 2013-14.The Suns certainly don't have to trade him, but if they keep him they'll have to do so with the idea that they'll be able to re-sign him to a long-term deal, however expensive it might be. Keep in mind what Roy Hibbert (four-years, $58 million) and JaVale McGee (four-years, $44 million) signed for as restricted free agents this past offseason.That said, here are five possible trade partners with Phoenix for Gortat:
1. Boston Celtics | Gortat for Avery Bradley and Courtney LeeNo team makes as much sense as Boston, which badly needs a big man to pair with Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt before the window of opportunity closes in the KG/Paul Pierce era. The Celtics have as many tradeable young talents as any playoff-caliber team, and though they've been very reluctant to include young defensive star Avery Bradley in any deal, they may have to in order to coax Gortat out of the Suns. Bradley would be exactly what the Suns are looking for if they have to move Gortat -- a young, hard-working shooting guard who can come in and fill a position of need.
Whoa!! Marcin Gortat is available for a couple of our role players?!!Yes, please.I love Avery. I really do. But, c'mon, Gortat's a straight up stud. If Danny could make this happen, I'd be jumping for joy.
Quote from: Celtics18 on November 19, 2012, 02:48:47 PMWhoa!! Marcin Gortat is available for a couple of our role players?!!Yes, please.I love Avery. I really do. But, c'mon, Gortat's a straight up stud. If Danny could make this happen, I'd be jumping for joy. Ditto. I love Avery as well but come on Gortat is the center we've been lacking for over a year now... this guy would literally help us match up with anybody
Quote from: j804 on November 19, 2012, 02:24:18 PMQuote from: wdleehi on November 19, 2012, 02:03:54 PMQuote from: angryguy77 on November 19, 2012, 02:02:39 PMNot AB. The only way the trade would be worth it is if we win it all this year. Does Gortat give us that big of an advantage? I don't think so.We have size on this team, Doc just needs to let his love for small ball go.Yes he does.KG and Gortat can control the boards against Miami. They can close the paint for drivers. Somewhat they can, but not if they have to constantly leave their man to help out on Wade abusing Barbosa and exhausting RondoDid they have to do that last year with Ray defending Wade? Did it really hurt the Celtics?No.What killed the Celtics was Bosh pulling KG out of the C and having no true big man waiting there to great Lebron and Wade.
I think it looks bad on the organization to trade Lee in his first season. What message would that send future potential free agents?