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Bill Walton 
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2012, 08:53:15 AM » |
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We need defensive rebounding from our bigs and that is it.
Exactly, which we don't have aside from Garnett, that's the problem.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 08:56:37 AM » |
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We need defensive rebounding from our bigs and that is it.
Exactly, which we don't have aside from Garnett, that's the problem.
*edit* Darko Youtube *edit*
Darko was a bad defender and bad rebounder when he got really out of shape. I'll have to see it this year before I believe he can provide that aspect.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2012, 09:02:02 AM » |
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We would like the Celtics to have it so we have a inside advantage over a team like Miami.
Trying to match up with them small really hurts most teams chances to beat them (including Boston)
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bfrombleacher
Bill Walton 
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2012, 09:04:10 AM » |
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We need defensive rebounding from our bigs and that is it.
Exactly, which we don't have aside from Garnett, that's the problem.
*edit* Darko Youtube *edit*
Darko was a bad defender and bad rebounder when he got really out of shape. I'll have to see it this year before I believe he can provide that aspect.
Posted that half jokingly. I think (or am deceiving myself into thinking) that his wrist is the thing that's holding him back right now. No more mental baggage it seems. His pre-season has gotten me real excited.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 09:17:34 AM » |
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Bosh Perk Chewbaka Noah Boozer
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2012, 09:21:37 AM » |
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Howard Gasol Duncan Gasol Randolph KG Bynum (if healthy) Hibbert (if they regain the form once Granger get's back)
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2012, 09:21:54 AM » |
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From last year we have:
1. Pau Gasol (41-25) 2. Randolph (41-25) 3. Horford (40-26) 4. West (42-24) 5. Boozer (50-16) 6. Bynum 7. Hibbert 8. Bosh (46-20) 9. Duncan (50-16) 10. Marc Gasol
I'd say that's pretty much the order, and includes 3 guys who are great post players but weren't even the best one on their team. FYI, those are 7 out of the top 8 teams, all finished better than the Celts.
OKC is very clearly the exception, not the rule as you suggest.
And if you think this year's different (like Chicago is no longer a "good" team) you can replace Boozer with B. Lopez and Dwight, both on contenders now. Also, Griffin is becoming dangerously close to a passable post player.
Edit: Both Lopez and Howard belong in the top 4 of that list if their teams pan out.
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Philly:
Anderson Varejao Tiago Splitter Matt Bonner David West Kenyon Martin Brad Miller Andre Iguodala Josh Childress Marquis Daniels Dwyane Wade Leandro Barbosa Kirk Hinrich Toney Douglas + the legendary Kevin McHale
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Courtney Lee
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2012, 09:39:57 AM » |
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We would like the Celtics to have it so we have a inside advantage over a team like Miami.
Trying to match up with them small really hurts most teams chances to beat them (including Boston)
Yes, three teams have beaten Miami so far this season (all away games): New York, Memphis and the Clippers. So it's starting to look like being bigger is better.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2012, 10:32:45 AM » |
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Dwight Howard Pau Gasol Chris Bosh Tim Duncan Roy Hibbert David West Brooke Lopez Amare Stoudemire Carlos Boozer Kevin Love Zach Randolph Marc Gasol 
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 10:44:48 AM » |
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It's a myth that big men are no longer as important. Having quality bigs isn't about just having them matchup, that's how guards work for the most part. Big men control the paint, therefore the game. When guards and wings are beat the bigs are the guys who step up and contest shots. When shots are missed its the bigs that clean up. Qaulity bigs make defending and scoring in the paint easier and we all know that's where the best shots are. With the exception of Miami all of the contenders have quality frontlines.
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2012, 10:54:31 AM » |
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Lakers - D12, Pau Gasol Spurs - Tim Duncan, Tiago Splitter OKC - Serge Ibaka Memphis - ZBo, Marc Gasol Denver - Kenneth Faried, JaVale McGee Dallas - Elton Brand Portland - LaMarcus Aldridge Boston - KG Miami - Bosh NJ - Brook Lopez Chicago - Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson NY - Tyson Chandler Atlanta - Al Horford
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Kevin Garnett
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2012, 11:54:23 AM » |
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There are plenty of post players who are great. There are very few teams with two players that Bass and KG will have trouble handling. The best post players are Bynum, Cousins, Lopez, Jefferson, Howard, Gasol, Millsap, DeAndre Jordan (He now has a beautiful quick turn around jump hook), Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Greg Monroe, Roy Hibbert (work in progress), Al Horford, Andrew Bogut, Spencer Hawes, David Lee, Zach Randolph, Marcin Gortat, Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, Pekovic, Bargnani and Josh Smith (when he feels like it) That's probably everyone. I don't count guys like Boozer, Stoudemire, Chandler, Ibaka, Durant or Griffin until they display ability to play in the post effectively.
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CelticsBlog DKC Pelicans J. Lin - N. Wolters - N. de Colo E. Gordon - A. Shved - J. Cunningham N. Batum A. Davis - K. Olynyk M. Leonard - A. Baynes Rights: A. Abrines, L. Nogueira Coach: M. Williams
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 11:57:29 AM » |
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5 post players on good teams:
Pau Gasol Dwight Howard Andrew Bynum Marc Gasol Zach Randolph Kevin Love Al Horford (but to be fair, Hawks might fall off the face of the earth) Dwyane Wade (That one is a clever exception, Kobe Bryant is also a good post player) LeBron James (This is not a clever exception, its a fact) Chris Bosh Tim Duncan
I guess I'll stop there Carlos Boozer
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2012, 12:05:25 PM » |
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We need defensive rebounding from our bigs and that is it.
Exactly, which we don't have aside from Garnett, that's the problem.
Also just paint protection in general from any of our big men other than Garnett would be huge.
My main point (not very well executed early this morning) is that there are very few offensive (true centers) that the Celtics cannot match up with because of size. On top of that we have two 7 footers on the bench if we ever do have to match up with the Lakers. The early hiccups on this team have been due to perimeter and pick and roll defense primarily, not because we do not have a true center to pair with Garnett.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 12:10:50 PM » |
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We need defensive rebounding from our bigs and that is it.
Exactly, which we don't have aside from Garnett, that's the problem.
Also just paint protection in general from any of our big men other than Garnett would be huge.
My main point (not very well executed early this morning) is that there are very few offensive (true centers) that the Celtics cannot match up with because of size. On top of that we have two 7 footers on the bench if we ever do have to match up with the Lakers.
The early hiccups on this team have been due to perimeter and pick and roll defense primarily, not because we do not have a true center to pair with Garnett.
At this point, the focus should not be 28 teams. It should be the Heat. What can give the Celtics an advantage against the Heat? As of right now, it looks like talented size (not necessarily star size) could be the biggest difference maker the Celtics could add.
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