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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2012, 03:03:38 PM »
Lakers are gonna kill NASH and Kobe with all those minutes and D antoni will be worse than Brown or Jackson. To keep his job he'll have to play Kobe into the ground. or get wins. ;D

OKC will literally run the Lakers into the ground  in a series. (iF nash and Kobe even survive) .

I dispise Jackson , and believe he is somewaht overated, but the players really believe in him and he seems to get the most out of them without "PUSHING" their fragile ego's.

He is just an old tall gray man who is good at managing personalities....more than a X's and 0's basketball coach.

I'm hoping D'antoni has some success , so that he won't be replaced with Jackson before XMAS.

I still think Brown would have been as good as D'antoni in the long run.  But LA is in a panic with Dwight unsigned long term and Kobe nearing retirement.

Go D' antoni !!   ;D

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2012, 03:14:13 PM »
Offense really hasn't been the issue.



And if Kobe was unhappy before, welcome to the offense that Melo hated. 





Defense will go down the tube because the coach doesn't believe in practicing it.





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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2012, 03:25:43 PM »
Great news for the Lakers and terrible news for Celtic fans.

Kobe, Dwight, Pau and Nash in D'Antoni's free-flowing offense is just a frightening... FRIGHTENING thought.  They'll probably drop 180 points a night.   Yes, their defense might suffer a little, but having the best defensive player in the league cleaning up the middle certainly helps.  Don't underestimate Pau Gasol's defense either.  The "no defense" thing is overblown.  D'Antoni has never had a guy like Dwight on his team.  There's only so much defense you could get out of Amare or David Lee in the middle.   

Meanwhile... you so-called Celtic fans disappoint me with your Phil drooling.  Have we forgotten who PhiL Jackson is?  He's the luckiest and most overrated coach in the history of basketball.  How hard is it to win titles with Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen?  How hard is it to win titles with Kobe and Shaq?  How hard is it to win titles with Kobe, Pau, etc in their prime?  He deserves a little credit, but just a little.  It delights me that Phil is "stunned" by this decision.  I'd LOVE to see Phil try to coach a mediocre crew of talent like this Celtics team or a team like the Knicks.   The guy is a fraud.  The "Zen Master" thing is razzle dazzle.  Even his famous "triangle" offense isn't even his own.  Gotta hand it to the Lakers for recognizing this about Phil.  The guy was just looking for another major payday and some more coattails to ride to a title.  He didn't even want to travel with the team to away games.  Are you kidding me?  Had Brooklyn landed Dwight HOward along with Deron Williams... you'd be seeing Phil coaching Brooklyn right now.  The guy follows superstars and gets way too much credit for their success.  He probably sat at home crying that Miami won a title... because it eliminated his shot of getting hired by the Heat and riding LeBron to another dynasty. 

The D'antoni signing is scary.   This is a worse case scenario if you ask me.  Here comes Showtime 4G.   

Last note:  The Triangle would have really limited Nash and favored Pau/Kobe.  By limiting Nash, you're limiting Dwight.  By limiting Dwight, you're potentially allowing for the slimmest of possibilities that the Lakers fail this year and Dwight bails in the offseason (along with Chris Paul) to the Mavericks.   Bringing in Mike D means that Dwight is going to spend a season getting constant alley oops playing in a free-flowing blasty blast of an offense.   Even if they could have potentially been "more successful" with Phil, that guy was only signing a 2 year contract at most.  This is probably just as much about keeping Dwight in Laker gold as anything. 

Terrible, Terrible news.

You can't really discredit Phil. I get what you're preaching but shaq and Kobe played together for three years without a title. Phil steps in and they win three and a row. I mean I don't think that's coincidence or luck. He never had a season at or below 500 and he has a 70% winning percentage. Like him or not, that's not all luck.

I'll discredit him.  Phil is overrated.  #1 - Kobe wasn't even drinking age his first 3 years in the league.  #2 - The first two years Kobe averaged about 10 points and Jordan was still destroying the league.  In year 3 it was a lockout shortened season and they fired Del Harris after 12 games.  Phil Jackson getting hired just so happened to coincide with Kobe turning into a 21 year old allstar and Shaq entering his prime (27 years old) as well as Jordan retiring.

Saying that Phil Jackson is responsible for that is like saying Mike Brown was responsible for the Cavs going from a 35 win team LeBron's rookie year to a 50 win contender in year 3.   

I'm telling you the guy is lucky.  His first year in Chicago just so happened to coincide with Scotty Pippen finally becoming a permanent starter (the Bulls hadn't even been a .500 team until Pippen arrived).  People forget a JOrdan-less Bulls team won 55 games in 1994 with Pippen at the forefront.  The guy was great.

Phil was still the Lakers coach in 2006-07 when they had Kobe and Lamar... they won 42 games.  They add Pau Gasol and Bynum became a double-double guy the next year... they win 57 and make the finals.  Was that Phil or was that about adding two of the best big men in the entire league?

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2012, 03:30:33 PM »
Melo hates any offense that doesn't allow him to dominate the ball. He is 1-8 in the playoffs as the leader of the Knicks.

Melo and Phil Jackson are both very overrated.

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 03:31:32 PM »
Melo hates any offense that doesn't allow him to dominate the ball. He is 1-8 in the playoffs as the leader of the Knicks.

Melo and Phil Jackson are both very overrated.


What is Kobe's record in the playoffs without Jackson?


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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2012, 03:31:55 PM »
Let the countdown till Pau is traded begin.

D'Antoni's system features an extremely ball-dominant PG, speed and quickness at every position, and high-level 3-point shooting at positions 1-4 (if not 1-5).

He just took over a roster that's a pathetic 33% from 3 for the 2nd year in a row and features two of the slowest players at their positions in the NBA (MWP at 3 and Pau at the 4). 

Either the roster changes, or the coaching will (again).
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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2012, 03:34:44 PM »
Let the countdown till Pau is traded begin.

D'Antoni's system features an extremely ball-dominant PG, speed and quickness at every position, and high-level 3-point shooting at positions 1-4 (if not 1-5).

He just took over a roster that's a pathetic 33% from 3 for the 2nd year in a row and features two of the slowest players at their positions in the NBA (MWP at 3 and Pau at the 4). 

Either the roster changes, or the coaching will (again).
Pau for Josh Smith? 

If that happens, we should try hard to be a 3rd team in the trade and get Pau to Boston.  He'd solve our biggest issues.

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2012, 04:05:42 PM »
I can't decide what the most entertaining thing about this story is - the outrage of my Knicks friends that D'Antoni has landed another high profile gig so soon, Lakers interviewed Dunleavy!, smug Jackson being stunned as he prepared to return, them dumping Mr.Potato Head for Pringles, imagining D'Antoni and Nash trying to recreate their Phoenix glory with Kobe's ballhogging in the way - oh so many goodies I can't make up my mind.
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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2012, 04:10:45 PM »
According to Woj it was Jackson's Greed and Ego that cost him the chance at the job.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lakers-resist-phil-jackson-s-power-grab-11051709.html

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Jackson wanted to humiliate Lakers vice president Jim Buss far more than he wanted to coach the team. He wanted significant allowances on travel, coaching duties and an ability to veto player personnel moves that didn't fit his vision. With an unprecedented 11 coaching championships, Jackson had every right to make unprecedented demands. He doesn't have the right to be surprised when the Lakers rejected them and hired a pliable, cheaper coach in Mike D'Antoni.

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Now, the Lakers are going out of their way to spare Jackson the embarrassment of his overreaching, but this is pointless spin. They're working with him to sell the public that he hadn't asked for too much, that somehow the franchise chose D'Antoni over Jackson on sheer merit. It's noble, but laughable. Jackson heard those chants in the Staples Center and never believed the Lakers had the guts to call his bluff before circling back to him on Monday.

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If Jackson was ever to return to coaching to chase a championship in a preferred locale, this job offered him the opportunity. His instincts were wrong on how to play these negotiations and it blew up on him. The Lakers could live with making Jackson the highest-paid coach in the NBA again, but Jackson had to come back in full, and the Lakers were wise to have uncertainties.

Jackson listened to Kobe Bryant gush and gush about him on Friday night, and believed the strongest voice in the locker room would accept only his return the bench. It was a mistake. Bryant preferred Jackson, but he has a history with D'Antoni back to his childhood growing up in Italy and across several years of USA Basketball. Bryant and D'Antoni have a relationship, a trust, and that's somewhere to start once they're thrust together.

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2012, 04:16:45 PM »
Let the countdown till Pau is traded begin.

D'Antoni's system features an extremely ball-dominant PG, speed and quickness at every position, and high-level 3-point shooting at positions 1-4 (if not 1-5).

He just took over a roster that's a pathetic 33% from 3 for the 2nd year in a row and features two of the slowest players at their positions in the NBA (MWP at 3 and Pau at the 4). 

Either the roster changes, or the coaching will (again).
Pau for Josh Smith? 

If that happens, we should try hard to be a 3rd team in the trade and get Pau to Boston.  He'd solve our biggest issues.

What is the motivation for Atlanta? Aren't they in rebuild mode? What would they want from us for basically Josh Smith? Lakers don't have picks or prospects to add to a deal. We would likely need a fourth team. For salaries it would need to be like Green, Bass/Lee, and young players like Bradley, Fab Melo, and Sullinger.

However assuming we don't give up the big three or Jet then Pau, KG, Pierce, Jet, and Rondo is absolutely deadly.

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2012, 04:36:49 PM »
Let the countdown till Pau is traded begin.

D'Antoni's system features an extremely ball-dominant PG, speed and quickness at every position, and high-level 3-point shooting at positions 1-4 (if not 1-5).

He just took over a roster that's a pathetic 33% from 3 for the 2nd year in a row and features two of the slowest players at their positions in the NBA (MWP at 3 and Pau at the 4). 

Either the roster changes, or the coaching will (again).
Pau for Josh Smith? 

If that happens, we should try hard to be a 3rd team in the trade and get Pau to Boston.  He'd solve our biggest issues.

What is the motivation for Atlanta? Aren't they in rebuild mode? What would they want from us for basically Josh Smith? Lakers don't have picks or prospects to add to a deal. We would likely need a fourth team. For salaries it would need to be like Green, Bass/Lee, and young players like Bradley, Fab Melo, and Sullinger.

However assuming we don't give up the big three or Jet then Pau, KG, Pierce, Jet, and Rondo is absolutely deadly.

Atlanta isn't in rebuild mode.  They are trying to reload on the fly, and Gasol is about as perfect a fit of a player next to Horford as their is in this league. 

Now, Gasol has fallen off a bit, but he still seems to have enough in the tank to give them another couple years of All-Star caliber play.

But here is the key for Atlanta.  Do they still think there is a chance they can get Howard and Paul this summer?  If so, they don't do it.  If they decide thats not happening, I don't think there is any better deal for Smith out there. 

A frontcourt of Horford and Gasol would put them in the running in the East for at least the next 2 seasons. 

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2012, 04:39:59 PM »
Great for Dwight fantasy owners.

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2012, 05:26:17 PM »
IMO tied for the worst coaches in the league: Mike D'antoni and Mike Brown...lovin' what the LAL are doing right now xD
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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2012, 05:40:39 PM »
If Phil Jackson is overrated, fine. Hes still better then the laughable Mike dantoni.....who was just run out of Ny for Mike woodson HAHAHAHA who was run out of Atlanta for Larry drew.you get the point. Mike dantoni couldn't coach himself out of a paperbag in the playoffs nevermind outcoach popovich...have fun looking sexy in the regular season

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Re: Bresnahan: Mike D'antoni hired as Lakers new coach
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2012, 06:07:43 PM »
All about getting TV subscriptions and ratings for their shiny new deal.

D'Antoni means entertainment value.


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