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Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #90 on: November 11, 2012, 12:39:30 PM »

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Ill say it again, yes its docs fault. Is it ALL ON HIM, no. However to say he shouldn't get any of the blame is just ridiculous. Once you give a coach the talent he needs to win and he STILL doesn't get it done then yes, its his fault. Still tho we're 3-3. I think the next 10 games or so we will know what's really up with this team.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #91 on: November 11, 2012, 02:11:51 PM »

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I'm still unclear to why DARKO is sitting on the bench.  Has he said something to make Doc mad.   He is glued to the bench as bad as Fab Melo.

I don't see why Melo and Darko can't see a few minutes to see if they can TURN the tide of INSIDE BUCKETS run scored on the Celtics in bunchs when KG goes to the bench.

At least Doc is giving WIlcox some burn.  Still would like to see our BIG centers reject some inside drives by the 6 '3 " guards that are killing us on penetration whe KG is out.
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Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2012, 04:40:24 PM »

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Shouldn't the C's better by now.  The 2008 team with less talent went crazy.  This team looks confused and over thinking.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2012, 04:44:33 PM »

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Shouldn't the C's better by now.  The 2008 team with less talent went crazy.  This team looks confused and over thinking.

Eh, the 2008 team was built pretty differently.  They were top heavy, which made it a little easier to integrate...because as long as KG, Pierce, and Allen (and to a lesser degree Rondo and Perkins) fit in together, they could just roll with that.

This team relies much more on depth, because their top end talent is not nearly as strong as it was in 2008.  So, for them to be clicking on all cylinders, they don't need 3-5 guys clicking, they really need 8 or 9 guys going strong.  And that definitely takes more time, and is more difficult in general to pull off.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2012, 05:10:41 PM »

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Shouldn't the C's better by now.  The 2008 team with less talent went crazy.  This team looks confused and over thinking.

  The 2008 team was one of the better teams of all time.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2012, 05:20:57 PM »

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The best thing about the 2008 team is that it tried almost every game. Since then -- meh

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2012, 06:00:26 PM »

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At this stage of the season given the minutes and player combinations you have to think this is of Doc Rivers doing. I've been trying to work out what he's been doing with some of the combos and I continue to scratch my head.

It's great to see Bass still hasn't learnt that he doesn't need to take shots almost every time he gets the ball forward of mid court.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2012, 07:55:36 PM »

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Our offense gets fixed as soon as we stop relying on Rondo handling the ball as much as he has been and if Pierce stops chucking the ball every time he touches it.

I really miss our ball movement. Rondo should be touching the ball constantly through our plays, but there's no reason to keep standing around doing practically nothing but dribble the ball at the top of the key.

Our offense is so predictable that it's sad. Our perimeter offense has completely disappeared because of this.

Doc has been awful early on in the season.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2012, 08:03:19 PM »

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Don't say doc got us a ring in 2008..say how could doc ONLY get one with a team like this....simple...he steps on guys who are productive...esp if they rebound....it is against his philosephey.......it was in the Herald as his direct quotes until he found it unpopular....but on the court, nothing hasd changed....Darko, sitting...why...usual, we have seen many a player sit for doc.....he makes no sense.....honestly, with the team we had, he easily should have pulled home 3 rings.....he is only good for a last second play......after YEARS of being chided by EVERYONE, he finally is playing pp and kg sparingly......still cannot grasp...no one shoots till someone is under the rim.......

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2012, 08:05:32 PM »

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Yo saw how it is supposed to work when we played Utah....we were lucky we had more talent...Rondo, ect...but they did a lot with mostly milsap and jefferson...always rebounding.....made it look simple....as it should be......sullinger, kg, darko, bass..they are all made for that type of hoop....doc is so lost......

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2012, 10:38:22 PM »

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I think if Doc wants to get Green involved he needs to start running plays for him...last night against the Pistons we saw Jeff score 6points in a row because doc called up plays specifically for him.

you aren't going to get someone going by having them stand in a corner to stretch the floor...thats something I would rather have Courtney Lee do.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #101 on: November 20, 2012, 08:33:15 AM »

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Do seems to only run plays for his fav players......you can turn almost anyone into a scorer...besides, not many look at the %...the attempts versus actual points...they just get a high off the points......as in allen iverson....he always scored 30 points....but took 50 shots.....result= no team....no one else ever gets the ball. They never ran plays for other centers, thing is, doc isn't a team concept guy.....if you are already there, and you take a role, and kg agrees, then it will happen, otherwise, doc will just look you down, go for someone else.....he is a very limited guy...narrow views. and no one can say "he got us a ring" it is more" how could he not with that team, and how only ONE...?"

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #102 on: November 20, 2012, 08:52:41 AM »

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Our offense gets fixed as soon as we stop relying on Rondo handling the ball as much as he has been and if Pierce stops chucking the ball every time he touches it.

I really miss our ball movement. Rondo should be touching the ball constantly through our plays, but there's no reason to keep standing around doing practically nothing but dribble the ball at the top of the key.

Our offense is so predictable that it's sad. Our perimeter offense has completely disappeared because of this.

Doc has been awful early on in the season.

  Our offense isn't broken at all. We're 10th in offense overall, 4th in TS%. The only reason we're not a top 4-5 offense is our offensive rebounding.

Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2012, 08:59:40 AM »

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I blame Doc for not adjusting the offense more...




But overall, no. 


This team is on cruise control right now and a good coach knows that his team of vets are playing the long season right.


This team has inside issue outside of KG.  There is only so much you can do with smoke and mirror.  This is a Ainge issue that is really hard to fix.  But from the sounds of the rumors, (Gortat rumor) it is an issue the Celtics understand and are trying to fix.


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Re: Yes or No? It's Doc's Fault
« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2012, 09:03:00 AM »

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Shouldn't the C's better by now.  The 2008 team with less talent went crazy.  This team looks confused and over thinking.

  The 2008 team was one of the better teams of all time.


Agreed.


That team had more talent.  KG, Pierce and Ray were closer to their Prime.


Rondo, Perk, Posey, House, Powe, Cassell and PJ all filled their rolls perfectly. 


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