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« on: November 07, 2012, 08:10:54 PM »

Just browsing the FOX News page a bit.  Sentiment seems to be that Romney drifted too far center & alienated the base. 

Huh.. 
 
Where do you think the GOP goes from here? 
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 08:21:50 PM »

I would say it is time to give the social conservatives and neocons the boot and adopt more libertarians.

Fiscally conservative yet socially liberal, has to be the future of the party at this point.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 08:39:47 PM »

Just browsing the FOX News page a bit.  Sentiment seems to be that Romney drifted too far center & alienated the base. 

Huh.. 
 
Where do you think the GOP goes from here?

That makes no sense to me. It was actually the opposite, it was his going to bed with the extreme right earlier on that alienated a lot of voters. And if you ask many in the Republican Party, they'll see it that way...

That Fox News is saying that, it further illustrates to me that there'll be a big divide on that party.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 08:41:23 PM »

Could start with getting the Latino vote.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 08:44:19 PM »

Just browsing the FOX News page a bit.  Sentiment seems to be that Romney drifted too far center & alienated the base. 

Huh.. 
 
Where do you think the GOP goes from here?

That makes no sense to me. It was actually the opposite, it was his going to bed with the extreme right earlier on that alienated a lot of voters. And if you ask many in the Republican Party, they'll see it that way...

That Fox News is saying that, it further illustrates to me that there'll be a big divide on that party.

Let's call a spade a spade, it was his religious stances on "woman's rights" and "gay rights" that did him in.

I put those in quotations because viewing people in groups is wrong to me.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 08:48:45 PM »

Could start with getting the Latino vote.


So run Marco Rubio? It still wont be enough.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 02:30:39 PM »

http://www.hulu.com/watch/426521?playlist_id=1251

This guy is gonna make it pretty tough to win in 2016 for the Dems. Very charismatic, very likable.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2012, 02:35:23 PM »

http://www.hulu.com/watch/426521?playlist_id=1251

This guy is gonna make it pretty tough to win in 2016 for the Dems. Very charismatic, very likable.
In the words of Taylor Swift, he's never ever, never ever getting nominated, ever.

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 03:21:45 PM »

I would say it is time to give the social conservatives and neocons the boot and adopt more libertarians.

Fiscally conservative yet socially liberal, has to be the future of the party at this point.
This...though I wouldn't go radical libertarian like Dr. Paul either.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2012, 03:25:36 PM »

Where do you think the GOP goes from here?

I think they put a non-white uber-conservative in the 2016 VP slot, then fail to understand why they get an even lower percentage of the minority vote.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 12:04:55 AM »

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/22/chambliss-fires-off-on-norquists-anti-tax-pledge/?hpt=hp_t1

Found this very encouraging. Hats off to him.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2012, 03:58:12 PM »

Jeb Bush.  Yes, another Bush in the White House.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 09:26:28 AM »

I think a Christie/Portman platform could have a lot of success for the GOP in 4 years, but I really don't think Christie will get the nomination (though Portman might as the Presidential candidate). 
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 09:47:53 AM »

Just browsing the FOX News page a bit.  Sentiment seems to be that Romney drifted too far center & alienated the base. 

Huh.. 
 
Where do you think the GOP goes from here?

That makes no sense to me. It was actually the opposite, it was his going to bed with the extreme right earlier on that alienated a lot of voters. And if you ask many in the Republican Party, they'll see it that way...

That Fox News is saying that, it further illustrates to me that there'll be a big divide on that party.

Let's call a spade a spade, it was his religious stances on "woman's rights" and "gay rights" that did him in.

I put those in quotations because viewing people in groups is wrong to me.

I think this was part of it.  But I think ultimately, no one really knew where he stood.  Which is death for a candidate facing an incumbent. 

He was wishy washy about everything.  He pandered to the Republican base in the primaries, and then tried to backtrack in the general election.  Then, when he asked for the trust of the American people on his less than transparent fiscal plans, I don't think anyone was willing to buy it.

I just think that when it comes to unseating an incumbent, you need to have a very strong candidate, who the public can trust that they know what they are going to do.  Even if a President has not been great in their first term, they still will garner more trust among the voting public than the other candidate, unless the other candidate really earns it.  Kind of a devil you know is better than the devil you don't mentality.

In 2016 it might not be as big of an issue, because both sides will be bringing forward new candidates without a track record as President.  But I do think someone like Christie, who for all his faults, comes across about as sincere as any politician I have ever seen, would be a strong candidate.  Although his health is certainly an issue.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 11:28:48 AM »

I think this was part of it.  But I think ultimately, no one really knew where he stood.  Which is death for a candidate facing an incumbent. 

I don't think that is death.  He tried to make the election a referendum on Obama and it turned out that a lot of people still like and trust Obama.  If more people had thought that Obama was a horrible president, then it wouldn't have mattered how much of spineless, namby-pamby candidate he was.
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