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it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« on: November 03, 2012, 02:41:49 PM »

Offline Ogaju

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We brought in a lot of new and exciting players, but there is no gain from having new tools if you do not know how to use them. We have a coaching problem people.

Garnett and Pierce are still featured as the nucleus of our team, but they are our oldest and slowest players. This negates all the speed we brought in. Our opponents are vastly younger and quicker than us, and it shows in the ease with which they score on us, and the fouls that they draw on our defense.

Doc gets the big bucks, and he has the players it is time to put the speed on the floor to run with Rondo, bring Pierce off the bench for Green at the three. I bet you things will change when you have Green Garnett and Bass starting with Rondo and Lee in the back court. Green light the rebounder to run the fast break, Rondo must learn to get out on the break and not wait for the ball to be turned over to him to run the break. Can he just go back and review tapes of the showtime Lakers. Worthy and Scott could run breaks with Magic  Kareem and Rambis filling the lanes. Good thing about Magic is when he got the ball he could finish or dish within the context of a break that was started by someone else. If we are going to run the ball Pierce must sit.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 03:51:37 PM »

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Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 04:18:40 PM »

Offline nickagneta

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Over reacting much??
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Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 04:23:17 PM »

Offline Celts Fan 92

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after 2 games doggie? lol

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2012, 04:28:56 PM »

Offline GreenFaith1819

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I think we could be looking at a similar repeat of last season. We started off slowly, some of us were panicking (even myself at times)..some of us jumped off the cliff.

That was at 15 and 17 prior to the All-Star break.

After the All-Star break, BOS stomped just about everyone, and took the NBA champs MIA to 7 games without Wilcox, Green or Avery.

While I don't think that THIS season will be an exact copy of last, it could have some similarities.

But I'm not worried, and I trust Doc Divers. He is the man.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 04:35:21 PM »

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We brought in a lot of new and exciting players, but there is no gain from having new tools if you do not know how to use them. We have a coaching problem people.

Garnett and Pierce are still featured as the nucleus of our team, but they are our oldest and slowest players. This negates all the speed we brought in. Our opponents are vastly younger and quicker than us, and it shows in the ease with which they score on us, and the fouls that they draw on our defense.

Doc gets the big bucks, and he has the players it is time to put the speed on the floor to run with Rondo, bring Pierce off the bench for Green at the three. I bet you things will change when you have Green Garnett and Bass starting with Rondo and Lee in the back court. Green light the rebounder to run the fast break, Rondo must learn to get out on the break and not wait for the ball to be turned over to him to run the break. Can he just go back and review tapes of the showtime Lakers. Worthy and Scott could run breaks with Magic  Kareem and Rambis filling the lanes. Good thing about Magic is when he got the ball he could finish or dish within the context of a break that was started by someone else. If we are going to run the ball Pierce must sit.

This team will fall prey to the half court game again. We have a couple starters that can't run consistently and bench players that don't know how or where to run. The Celts will meld after 20 or so games and make the Playoffs around the 4th spot and retire in the 2nd round. They shot their wad against the Heat and lost. Very demoralizing to them. After losing Allen we became the Big 2 with little back up. Since the Auerbach days Management has not kept up with skills even close to LA's. Now some of that Braintrust is in Miami. Look for them to rule for 4 years or so. We're always shopping garage sales.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 04:37:07 PM »

Offline GreenFaith1819

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Also - if us BOS fans are panicking, imagine what LA's fanbase is doing right now, lol.

They are 0-3, Kobe has already stated "Now is the time to panic", Steve Nash is already injured, and while they are imposing team they certainly do have their weaknesses - age being one of them.

At least BOS is younger and healthier.

I even saw a Laker fan at the grocery store last night, and he laughed and told me he was switching to the Heat.

Figures. ;D

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2012, 04:45:35 PM »

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You forget the new accepted process of building a high end second tier team.

1) Reload
2) Rebuild
3) Compete

Danny Ainge did an outstanding job in step one. Doc is going through step two with his players with the new players. This will mean losses to teams with less talent but have played together for a time. Tonight could be another example. So patience is needed amongst the local bloggers.
The NBA is a very stupid, corrupt, and unethical league

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2012, 04:51:49 PM »

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We brought in a lot of new and exciting players, but there is no gain from having new tools if you do not know how to use them. We have a coaching problem people.

Garnett and Pierce are still featured as the nucleus of our team, but they are our oldest and slowest players. This negates all the speed we brought in. Our opponents are vastly younger and quicker than us, and it shows in the ease with which they score on us, and the fouls that they draw on our defense.

Doc gets the big bucks, and he has the players it is time to put the speed on the floor to run with Rondo, bring Pierce off the bench for Green at the three. I bet you things will change when you have Green Garnett and Bass starting with Rondo and Lee in the back court. Green light the rebounder to run the fast break, Rondo must learn to get out on the break and not wait for the ball to be turned over to him to run the break. Can he just go back and review tapes of the showtime Lakers. Worthy and Scott could run breaks with Magic  Kareem and Rambis filling the lanes. Good thing about Magic is when he got the ball he could finish or dish within the context of a break that was started by someone else. If we are going to run the ball Pierce must sit.

This team will fall prey to the half court game again. We have a couple starters that can't run consistently and bench players that don't know how or where to run. The Celts will meld after 20 or so games and make the Playoffs around the 4th spot and retire in the 2nd round. They shot their wad against the Heat and lost. Very demoralizing to them. After losing Allen we became the Big 2 with little back up. Since the Auerbach days Management has not kept up with skills even close to LA's. Now some of that Braintrust is in Miami. Look for them to rule for 4 years or so. We're always shopping garage sales.

Wow - you really believe this team is only good for the 2nd round?

And personally I think that Danny Ainge had done a good job - even great at times.

He got us Ray and KG.

He got us the team we are looking at right now.

And while the game 7 loss to MIA last season was demoralizing, I don't think it's "broken" this team.

Some teams, players, don't recover from those types of losses. But KG, Paul, Rondo, Bass and Jet are made of sterner stuff.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2012, 05:01:22 PM »

Offline Jon

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You'd think after last year and 2010 when half the board acted the part of Chicken Little when the team played poorly only to find the C's to be one of the most dominant teams in the league that people would stop the knee-jerk reactions to losses.   

Guess not. 

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 05:21:29 PM »

Offline CelticG1

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You'd think after last year and 2010 when half the board acted the part of Chicken Little when the team played poorly only to find the C's to be one of the most dominant teams in the league that people would stop the knee-jerk reactions to losses.   

Guess not.

Haha yeah I don't get it. I was saying the same thing last year telling people to look back to 210 but people will always find some reasoning or ex cuse for how its different.

Bottom line is we have way too much talent to not be good. We went pretty far last year and no matter how you slice it, we significantly improved our team.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2012, 05:32:03 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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The sky is falling!  Last year was fool's gold.  We limped into the playoffs with the 6th seed, beat Atlanta without HOrford... then toppled a 8th seed who had no business being in the 2nd round.  Our fourth best player is comin off the bench in Miami and we still have no big men next to KG.  WE'RE DOOMED!!

Lol...

Nah.  This team is what it is.  I figured we'd play .500 ball until February.  Hopefully we can make an impact trade using our assets at the deadline.

The difference between this year and last year ... is that this year we have some interesting new storylines to follow.  I'm excited to see how Sully plays.  I'm excited to see how Jeff Green plays.  I'm excited to watch what Terry and Barbosa do off the bench... excited to see how Lee fills Ray's shoes.  I'm excited to see Bradley come back and be a little defensive specialist pest off the bench.  It's going to be a fun season.  Enjoy it and don't worry about the losses piling up.  Half of our players can't be traded until either December 15th or January 15th.  Just have patience and enjoy the ride.

Re: it may be early, but I have seen enough and I am full
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 05:45:49 PM »

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o my god!, its the end of the world. The Celtics will lose in the 1st round and Laker won't even make playoffs :(

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 05:47:41 PM »

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Laker won't even make playoffs

Oh Man I'd LOOOOOOVE THAT if it happened, lol

A Dream Come true.

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 06:26:23 PM »

Offline Ogaju

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Look guys we lost to the Heat last season. Does it really matter whether it was game 7 or game 4. Celtics should not be about Moral victories, no proud organization should live on moral victories.

Doc Rivers gets too too many passes on this board. At some point we have to look at production on the court. One championship is not enough to show for the big3 period. It is not about the two losses we have suffered so far, it is how we have lost the games. The defense is non-existent, and the offense was subpar last night. At some point the coaching has to be questioned.

 

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