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Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #180 on: December 06, 2012, 10:41:35 PM »

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The Knicks are really good (I knew it, but tonight proved it to me). I hope people don't take them for granted now.

Also Heat fans said the Heat let the Knicks win the last game because of Hurricane Sandy  ::). Tonight there is no excuse for getting beat like this at your house with their best player out.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #181 on: December 06, 2012, 10:42:36 PM »

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Knicks puttin down da hammer.   8)

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #182 on: December 06, 2012, 10:45:28 PM »

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Knicks have shot 40 threes tonight  :o

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #183 on: December 06, 2012, 10:46:44 PM »

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Did Heat fans leave already?
At least stay and cheer your team on.

The Knicks are just hot right now and there is nothing they can do to stop it.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #184 on: December 06, 2012, 10:52:12 PM »

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This was a highly entertaining game.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #185 on: December 06, 2012, 10:54:30 PM »

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Knicks seem to have the heats number. You guys want to explain why you think that is?

If I didn't already know you were awesome and not completely negative like some about the C's, I'd post an angry post.

Simply because the Heat aren't the gods that everyone is making them out to be. Even around celticsblog. Jeez.
Actually its because the Heat are terrible at allowing open three point shots so far this year.

The Knicks are built to chuck up threes.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #186 on: December 06, 2012, 11:18:06 PM »

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The Knicks are shooting freakishly well from three point range.

One of three teams to be shooting over 40% from three (only 8 other teams have done this over the course of a full season) and are leading the league in both attempts and makes. If they did keep up this three point barrage, the Knicks would become the 9th team to shoot over 40% from three but would do so while taking almost 50% more attempts than every other team on the list.



The vast majority of their success right now is coming from that unbelievable shooting from that three point spot + forcing turnovers (4th) and avoiding turnovers themselves (1st) at a high clip. The rest of their indicators are all fairly underwhelming:

(1) Possession creation = neutral = out-rebounded frequently and badly but have a very positive turnover differential that gets them to neutral.

(2) 23rd in defensive eFG%, 12th in defensive reb%, 13th in defensive efficiency

(3) Carmelo Anthony is currently their only dependable / prolific shot creator.  Nobody else on the team is even scoring 15ppg. The second leading scorer is Raymond Felton who has been a choke artist in the playoffs in the past. Then JR Smith (erratic) and Tyson Chandler who can't make a shot outside of five feet. They don't have enough creators to generate quality shot attempts consistently in tough playoff series.




Once Amare and Shumpert come back, I think the Knicks hot-shooting will slow down and their turnovers will increase considerably.

They'll lose some of their spacing offensively and won't be able to play as small lineup wise as they have done (two PGs, two perimeter orientated forwards, only one big). Amare will force them into more conventional lineups. Floor will shrink. Turnovers will increase. Amare will add some shot-creation but I think the Knicks will lose more offensively with his return than they gain due to their chemistry / personnel issues. Shumpert is just plain inefficient and erratic offensively.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #187 on: December 06, 2012, 11:26:49 PM »

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Wade's play was worrying for Miami. Very up and down this season. He is looking less and less reliable for Miami. They may have a major problem on their hands with Wade.

Bosh played badly. He'll do better in the future.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #188 on: December 06, 2012, 11:56:07 PM »

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Great game tonight.

It's clear Miami has motivational issues.  Maybe it's because it's the regular season, but that's three games in one week where they've shown very little effort, and got burned twice for it.  Put this with their defensive issues, and it's clear Miami has things to work out between now and the playoffs.

Then, there's Wade.  Chuck hit the nail on the head pre-game; his game relies heavily on athleticism, and now that it's declining, he's become much less effective.  If Wade wants to prolong his career, he needs to develop a post game.  For a guard, he's incredibly strong, so backing down other guards shouldn't be an issue.

The reason that NY has beat Miami with ease is primarily because the Heat have suffered on their perimeter defense while NY has brought in plenty of shooters.  That's a huge advantage for the Knicks; once our shooters get into a groove, I suspect we should at least be able to keep up with Miami.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 12:07:33 AM by CelticsFan9 »

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #189 on: December 07, 2012, 12:17:49 AM »

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The Celtics would be best off against the Heat if they could put three credible three-point shooters on the floor with Rondo and Garnett with competent team defense.
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Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #190 on: December 07, 2012, 04:29:52 AM »

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Byron Scott has put a new spin on rookie hazing.
The Cleveland Cavaliers' coach presented each one of his rookies -- Dion Waiters, Tyler Zeller and Kevin Jones -- with baby dolls and pink strollers before Wednesday night's 95-85 loss to the Chicago Bulls.





http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8718872/byron-scott-cleveland-cavaliers-hands-baby-dolls-strollers-three-rookies

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Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #191 on: December 07, 2012, 06:56:27 AM »

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Wade's play was worrying for Miami. Very up and down this season. He is looking less and less reliable for Miami. They may have a major problem on their hands with Wade.

Bosh played badly. He'll do better in the future.
Yeah, Wade is looking like he's hit the wall.

Makes me appreciate guys like KG/Pierce/Kobe/Allen, players who've aged so well.

Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #192 on: December 07, 2012, 09:00:37 AM »

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Wade's play was worrying for Miami. Very up and down this season. He is looking less and less reliable for Miami. They may have a major problem on their hands with Wade.

Bosh played badly. He'll do better in the future.

Glad to know we're not the only team with crappy guard defense on the pick and roll.


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Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #193 on: December 07, 2012, 09:07:38 AM »

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Chandler ( surprise ) was a HUge part of that beating

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Re: 2012/2013 NBA Season
« Reply #194 on: December 07, 2012, 09:27:25 AM »

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Wade's play was worrying for Miami. Very up and down this season. He is looking less and less reliable for Miami. They may have a major problem on their hands with Wade.

Bosh played badly. He'll do better in the future.

Glad to know we're not the only team with crappy guard defense on the pick and roll.

Yeah, there's roughly thirty teams in the league that fit that description.
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