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With all these fresh bait, what fish can we land.
« on: October 18, 2012, 06:42:58 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Lets leave Josh Smith out of this. We now have more chips now than the KG megadeal days. Between..

 Jeff Green
 Sullinger
 Courtney Lee
 Avery Bradley
 Jason Terry
 Brandon Bass
 Barbosa
 Fab Melo
 
 That's an impressive list of talent excluding are big three. Who could we realistically go after?

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Ed Davis?

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 07:46:19 AM »

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Probably a whole bunch of picks if things don't go as planned.

I'm not expecting a big marquee trade.


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Big Al or Millsap from the Jazz would probably make the most sense. Both will be FA's this summer and they have Favors and Kanter that they need to give playing time to. Big Al would be the better option so that he can bring another element to our team (low post scoring), but his contract is also higher and much more difficult to trade for in terms of matching outgoing salary. Millsap is an upgrade over Bass, so perhaps Bass (who is signed to a multi-year deal for much less than Millsap will command) and picks for him would intrigue the Jazz. They would have a longterm backup for Kanter and Favors, add a couple of draft picks, and let Big Al walk during free agency to potentially become players during the summer.

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Varejao?

I don't really know the Cavs situation off top of my head but id think a back court of Irving Bradley could look good

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Varejao?

I don't really know the Cavs situation off top of my head but id think a back court of Irving Bradley could look good

I don't think they would have interest since they just drafted waiters really high
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Trade bait is a player worth more than his contract. There wasn't a big competition to sign Barbosa. Most of the vets on that last were recently signed at or near their market price, so unless they make big jumps in performance, they aren't really bait.

The trade bait we have is Sullinger and Bradley. I bet you don't actually want to trade those two, but that's kind of the point.

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Andrew Bogut is who I want. I think we have enough young talent to entice the Warriors to deal Bogut to us. Although the Warriors are not really thin on talent on the other hand (they have a bench mob just like we do). But I still want Bogut next to KG.

I know he's been unhealthy for the past couple of years, but those are not nagging injuries. Higher chance of being healthy than get another season ending one again.

And when healthy, no doubt top 5 center.
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Varejao?

I don't really know the Cavs situation off top of my head but id think a back court of Irving Bradley could look good

I think Varejao is a dream fit for our current group.  His manic hustle, tremendous possession creation (one of the best offensive rebounders I've ever watched) and pick and roll defensive excellence would do wonders for this team.

If something like Bass/Bradley wasn't appealing to them, maybe Lee/Melo/future first would be.
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Varejao?

I don't really know the Cavs situation off top of my head but id think a back court of Irving Bradley could look good

I think Varejao is a dream fit for our current group.  His manic hustle, tremendous possession creation (one of the best offensive rebounders I've ever watched) and pick and roll defensive excellence would do wonders for this team.

If something like Bass/Bradley wasn't appealing to them, maybe Lee/Melo/future first would be.


What makes most sense for them will be Green.  It is the only position they do not have a young potential starter at. 


And yes, I would make that trade if it becomes clear that rebounding and interior defense is still a major problem with this team. 

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Bradley is better than Varajao with still plenty of upside.

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Varejao?

I don't really know the Cavs situation off top of my head but id think a back court of Irving Bradley could look good

I think Varejao is a dream fit for our current group.  His manic hustle, tremendous possession creation (one of the best offensive rebounders I've ever watched) and pick and roll defensive excellence would do wonders for this team.

If something like Bass/Bradley wasn't appealing to them, maybe Lee/Melo/future first would be.


What makes most sense for them will be Green.  It is the only position they do not have a young potential starter at. 


And yes, I would make that trade if it becomes clear that rebounding and interior defense is still a major problem with this team.

Hmmm... If Pietrus was willing to join midseason, that would be an appealing trade to me. I think Rondo/Bradley/Pierce/Sully/KG with a Terry/Lee/Pietrus/Bass/Varejao bench is a pretty incredible team.   

But if you could convince Cleveland that Bass is the pick/pop guy Irving needs, Melo is their defensive 5 of the future (a nice tandem with Zeller, maybe) and Kris Joseph & a future pick are nice assets, and all they need to send over is Anderson Varejao and Jon Leuer (passable 3rd string PF), I'd be more stoked.

Rondo(35)/Terry(25)
Bradley (25)/Lee (25)
Pierce(32)/Green (12)
Sully (24)/Green (16)
KG (28)/Varejao (28)

That is a killer rotation.
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Bradley is better than Varajao with still plenty of upside.

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I don't think a mid-season trade makes sense unless the team is in trouble or if a player needs to be gotten rid of because he has become a distraction.  For players who are on the first year of a multi-year contract, they need to establish whether or not they are worth that deal.

The next off-season is a different story.
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