I wonder if the rumored "promise" to Royce White was just a Danny Ainge smoke screen. Maybe he was hoping to get someone else to take a flyer on him before we picked. Because Boston was the team leading up to the draft with arguably the most interest in him. If so, another great move by Ainge.
I certainly was fooled. I didn't see White missing any of training camp. I thought this was all a none issue and greatly exagerated by the media for a good story. Guess i was pretty wrong there.
I am still convinced there was no promise, and it was a tactic by the agent. And a genius one.
What I think happened is White's anxiety was acting up from traveling to all the workouts...so, he shut it down, and the agent leaked that he had a promise, so teams would both think they need to pick him higher, and not worry so much that it was his anxiety. He could have even taken it far enough to get someone like Danny in on it as a favor, to help teams think that it was the C's.
Sounds plausable to me Chris. I was on the rockets site.. Definatley a mix of emotions over there about it. I feel for the kid and the fans, but to me it looks like Morey took a huge swing and missed.
If they could close the book now and that'd be the end of it, yeah. But I think that writing off White now..its just such a terrible awful idea.
Change aggravates any psychological condition. When he went to Minnesota, do you think he was less affected? Someone (Iowa) finally took the right approach with him, and look how it paid off. It is a journey by steps with him, the Rockets need to pretty much hold his hand, and treat him with kid gloves, get him in a routine, feeling safe, feeling secure. He's gonna have setbacks, Houston needs to ensure that he can get through them.
But Royce White's talent and ceiling are far, far above anyone taken after him, excepting maybe PJ3, but even then, PJ3's injury concerns are pretty significant.
I agree. His talent and ceiling are above a few of the players taken before him as well.
A lot of people on this board are glad that the Celtics didn't get him. For the most part I share that sentiment, because I am very high on Sullinger, and think that Fab Melo was worth the risk given positional need.
But let's compare Sullinger and White: Sullinger has the potential to be a solid, if not spectacular, PF/C. Royce White has the potential to be a game-changing 3/4. Sullinger has a chronic injury issue, that you hope with treatment you can limit such that he doesn't miss much time. However, if/when his injury issue flares up, you will have little advance warning. White has a chronic mental illness that you hope you can limit with treatment. Howeever, if/when his illness flares up, you will be somewhat prepared, because it will occur on road games. White could reasonably be expected to be available for home games, as well as games at NY, Brooklyn, Philly, and perhaps Washington. If the schedule gods are nice, maybe there are a few games in a row at Cleveland/Detroit/Indy/Chicago/Milwaukee that he can get to. You can hope that you find the right treatment, and that he can travel with the team a few times. If you hit the jackpot, you find a treatment that allows him to make most or all of the trips. With Sullinger, you similarly hope you can find the right treatment such that he doesn't miss any extended time, and if you're successful, you've again hit the jackpot. Now maybe you feel more comfortable with your ability to manage a back issue than an anxiety issue, and I would find that reasonable, if not debatable. But I think this "I'm glad the Celtics didn't get him" might be misplaced. I'd rather have a game-changer for half the year than a guy who can't crack the rotation for all of the year. (Note: I already said I prefer Sully/Melo to White. But if White were available and one of those two were off the board, I don't think the C's would have been crazy to take White.)
But you don't see Sully saying since his long term health is most important he needs a bus to drive him to all games so he can sit in a hot tub and ice tub the whole way cause that's what's best for his long term health
Plus White is still subject to all the physical injuries that are out there too.
With regards to physical injuries, Sully is still subject to all the other non-back physical injuries as well, such as knees, ankles, shoulders, concussions, etc, so I think that's a wash. If Sully tears an ACL, some people will probably try to link it to his back, but more likely it will be a freak injury that can occur when large, strong men run, jump, and crash into each other a lot.
Sullinger is certainly going to try to play every game. I think that White will too. Panic disorder sucks, and I'm sure White would rather not have it. (And also, try telling someone who's heart starts pounding, is hyperventilating, and is dizzy from watching the room spin around him that it's just in his head. But I digress.) But Sullinger doesn't have to make an issue out of his back (other than, like White pre-draft, saying it's a non-issue so that he can get drafted as high as possible) because the CBA gives him a process to make certain that he's being properly treated. The CBA doesn't address White, but the ADA does, and so he's using it.
But really, the point I was making in regards to comparing White and Sullinger was how sensible it was, or wasn't, to draft either of them in the first place. And if you believe in the talent of the player, there's going to be a certain point where you say "I'd rather have that guy for 50 games and hope he's able to play more than this other guy for 80 games." Neither pick may pan out, or both may, but at some point in the draft both players were going to be risks worth taking.