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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #360 on: October 03, 2012, 01:57:06 PM »

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Fun fact, I accidentally reacquired Marcus Morris in the Caron Butler for Ray Allen deal that I made with the Webskins. My original target was again #11 pick Klay Thompson, but Kane somehow talked me down from Thompson, to a 2012 1st, to the worse Morris brother and the rights to swap 1sts.

This sounds a lot like Sam Presti talking Danny down from James Harden to Jeff Green in the Perkins deal.

Props to Presti... I mean Kane!

Mk

TP. Great comparison. And Kane does deserve credit. Guy had my head spinning.

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #361 on: October 03, 2012, 03:13:04 PM »

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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?

We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though.  Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional.  Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure.  Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.

As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)


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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #362 on: October 03, 2012, 03:27:35 PM »

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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?

We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though.  Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional.  Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure.  Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.

As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)

If you still had brook lopez instead of D-12 I wouldnt be as scared
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #363 on: October 03, 2012, 04:05:31 PM »

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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?

We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though.  Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional.  Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure.  Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.

As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)

If you still had brook lopez instead of D-12 I wouldnt be as scared

That would be Broke... I mean Brook Lopez AND James Harden instead of L4... I mean D12.

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #364 on: October 03, 2012, 05:04:13 PM »

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We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though.  Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional.  Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure.  Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.

I'd agree with most of the above. I just wanted to acknowledge that nobody drafted their team around a H2H strategy. I'd also point out that every rules change since has consequences. If we'd never expanded the playoff field from 6 to 8, I'd have won a THIRD title in 2011. Instead you were able to, throw some match-ups, exploit the seeding and a late trade deadline to get your first win. I'd never thought of it this way before, but I guess we can agree I did get "screwed" by that one.

Capping playoff roster moves absolutely hurt me, since I'd always prioritized a deep starting 11 over my bench. But it's a rule change that you and some others felt had a lot of merit and would improve the league long term.

Do you see where I'm going? But if you prefer TOs as a category then let's discuss.

Here's my thinking, re: AST/TO to TO.

Typically the league's best players are the ones who commit the most turnovers. They're receiving the most minutes, handling the ball more, taking more shots. Using turnovers as a category punishes managers for having and starting better players. And just about the only workable strategy is to ignore the category, which isn't exactly punting - purposely drafting high turnover players.

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #365 on: October 03, 2012, 07:50:15 PM »

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The players below are in danger of being waived by the Utah Flash. If you have some interest in any of them, please shoot me an offer or someone else may claim them.

Any reasonable deal will be accepted. Second rounders are preferred method of payment.

Kyle O'Quinn - Put a beat-down on Andre Drummond during Summer League play. Could start at C for Orlando.

Jon Leuer - The scrappy pf/c will earn his minutes behind the injury prone Varejao & inconsistent Tristan Thompson.

Nolan Smith - Will get backup minutes at both the pg and sg (now that Elliot William is out for the season) for Portland.

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #366 on: October 04, 2012, 10:39:23 AM »

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as scintilating as all this back-and-forth has been...

Can i get Birdman or Rusted Rims to clarify just a bit here:

BTW Birdman and I have an unofficial trade to announce, pending commish and league approval:

Rusted Rims send:

Andrew Nicholson
Michael J Dunleavy Jr
Wes Johnson
Quincy Miller

Birdman sends:

DJ Augustin
Chandler Parsons
Right to swap 2013 1sts

Sad to see Nicholson go but I wanted another PG and I'm intrigued by Parsons.

Does Rusted Rims have the right to swap #1s with Birdman?
FWIW, this is how i read it-


(or does Birdman have the right to swap #1s with The Rims?)

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #367 on: October 04, 2012, 12:27:00 PM »

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Birdman trades to the Rims the right to swap picks = Rims have the option of taking Birdman's 1st in exchange for the Rims'.
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #368 on: October 05, 2012, 08:43:43 PM »

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i will take a draft pick for carl Landry or Psycho T..and maybe Mike Dunleavy..if u want any of these great players, send me an offer..thanks...or might do a 3 for 1 deal
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #369 on: October 06, 2012, 06:29:31 PM »

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Okay folks, just got back from long day at work. I had 6 trade proposals which is great. So let me look them over and I will get back to each of u asap. Of course, Im looking for the best deal for myself in the long run, lol

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #370 on: October 08, 2012, 09:21:03 AM »

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One week, one day, and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline. Below are my players who are at the end of my roster. If you have any interest, hit me up. I am not overly attached of any of them and may just swap one with you, netting a player I intend to waive.

Don't be shy.

Luke Babbit
Terrence Williams
Kyle O'Quinn
Nolan Smith
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JaJuan Johnson

I have one more player to add to the list, but I am waiting for a trade (I sent Jon Leuer out) to be officially announced.



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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #371 on: October 08, 2012, 12:50:02 PM »

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Trade on the board:

Toine's Boys send Jajuan Johnson
Utah Flash send Jon Leuer
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #372 on: October 08, 2012, 01:00:29 PM »

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The Utah Flash would like to welcome JaJuan Johnson to the team! JaJuan is on a camp invite. He hopes to make the 16 man regular season roster.

Good luck JJJ! Let's see something this preseason!

Mk

P.S. JJJ is on the block if anyone is interested.

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #373 on: October 08, 2012, 01:20:44 PM »

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One week and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline.

Clarification: Cut down day is Tuesday, Oct 16, at 5 PM Eastern time. I was initially under the false impression that the 16th is a Monday.
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! H2H Hoops League: 2012-13 season: Rookie Draft
« Reply #374 on: October 08, 2012, 01:33:44 PM »

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One week and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline.

Clarification: Cut down day is Tuesday, Oct 16, at 5 PM Eastern time. I was initially under the false impression that the 16th is a Monday.

What? We have a whole extra 24 extra hours???? I could cram an additional trade or three into that time. Sweet!

Maybe I should cut down on the coffee.

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