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Re: Superhero/Comics Movie Thread
« Reply #240 on: April 07, 2014, 08:30:06 AM »

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Superhero movies of 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st


Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
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Re: Superhero/Comics Movie Thread
« Reply #241 on: April 07, 2014, 10:09:44 AM »

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Superhero movies of 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st


Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018

where is that list from?

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« Reply #242 on: April 07, 2014, 11:11:28 AM »

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Marvel got the Fantastic Four back?  That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy.  Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.

EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies.  So Fox is rebooting it?  Still could be an improvement.

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« Reply #243 on: April 07, 2014, 11:18:28 AM »

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Marvel got the Fantastic Four back?  That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy.  Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.

EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies.  So Fox is rebooting it?  Still could be an improvement.
Marvel paid for some of their galactic villains and cosmic characters back but Fox is keeping FF4.

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« Reply #244 on: April 07, 2014, 11:19:38 AM »

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Marvel got the Fantastic Four back?  That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy.  Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.

EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies.  So Fox is rebooting it?  Still could be an improvement.
I'm hoping they can do a much better version of the Fantastic Four.  I didn't have a problem with the casting but the story lines were weak, especially the Surfer/Galactus sequel.

Keep hoping for a really good Superman movie to finally be made.  the last 2 were so-so.  also surprised they haven't targeted Wonder Woman for a movie yet.  Would seem a natural.

Re: Superhero/Comics Movie Thread
« Reply #245 on: April 07, 2014, 02:01:48 PM »

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Superhero movies of 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st


Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018

where is that list from?
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php
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« Reply #246 on: April 07, 2014, 02:08:43 PM »

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Superhero movies of 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st


Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018

where is that list from?
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php
thank you!

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« Reply #247 on: April 07, 2014, 02:25:43 PM »

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Marvel got the Fantastic Four back?  That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy.  Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.

EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies.  So Fox is rebooting it?  Still could be an improvement.


The casting is a worry.

F4 has always been a story of family with super powers.  Unless there is adoption involved, the brother and sister are no longer brother and sister. 


The first did suffer from bad scripts.  The makeup/costume wasn't great either. 

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« Reply #248 on: April 07, 2014, 02:30:00 PM »

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Marvel got the Fantastic Four back?  That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy.  Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.

EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies.  So Fox is rebooting it?  Still could be an improvement.
Marvel paid for some of their galactic villains and cosmic characters back but Fox is keeping FF4.
The Marvel cinematic universe contains most of the Marvel Characters.  All of the Avengers + others:  (Hulk, Iron-Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man, SHIELD, Guardians of the Galaxy + the 4 characters we'll be seeing on Netflix... Daredevil, iron-fist, etc) ... All those characters belong to the same universe and theoretically can cross paths at any time. 

Sony owns Spider-Man's film rights.  So all the Spider-Man characters/villains you saw in the 3 Toby MaGuire movies + the rebooted 2 Andrew Garfield movies... those all belong exclusively to Sony and can't cross over and thus exist in a separate movie universe.   They intend to spin it off into multiple franchises that tie into the same Universe... like a Venom movie, for example.

Fox owns the rights to all the X-Men characters.  Basically all the Hugh Jackman X-Men movies are supposed to exist in the same Universe since 2000 when the first one came out.  The films suck at continuity, though... so there's tons of issues... especially the standalone Wolverine films.  Very messy.  Then they launched X-Men First class intending it to be separate, but realized they could make a lot of money going the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" route, so they intend to tie it all together (with the older X-Men movies) with this new one (Days of Future Past) that is coming out... I assume they'll use time travel to fix some of the broken continuity. 

Additionally, FOX owns the film rights to Fantastic Four... so they intend to reboot it (with MIchael B. JOrdan as Human Torch, for example) and it's intended to exist in the same universe as their X-Men characters.   Basically, Marvel Studios changed the game by having this epic movie universe all tie together.  So now all these other studios who own the movie rights to these other characters are trying to do the same thing... so expect this new Fantastic Four to have some crossover with the X-Men movies. 

So unfortunately none of the Marvel Studios characters can show up in Sony (Spider-Man) or Fox (X-Men/Fantastic Four) movies and vice versa.  You'd think the studios would make some agreement where they could all benefit, but the issue is that if Spider-Man showed up in an Avengers film, the studios can't decide how much money Sony should get by having Spider-Man in the movie. 

Other studios are trying to do their own thing, but unfortunately Marvel has a head start on them and are doing this perfectly (starting with the first Robert Downey Jr Iron-Man movie).  It's all extremely well thought out.  They work very hard to make sure everything ties together and fits.  An example is the Ant-Man movie they are making (starring Paul Rudd).  Edgar Wright (Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, Scott Pilgrim, etc) has been attached to direct that little comedy/superhero film since 2006.  Marvel Studios put it on the backburner while they launched this huge cinematic universe.  Now that they are set to finally make the movie, they had to go back to the script (from 2006) and re-write certain aspects so that it fit with the rest of the Marvel cinematic universe.  They are doing this the right way.

On the flip side you have Warner Brothers... who owns the rights to ALL the D.C. Comics characters... and it's a complete mess over there.   They don't have this thought out at all.  Nolan's "Dark Knight" movies were in a standalone universe.   The TV Show "Arrow" is in a separate universe that includes a new spin-off Tv Show based on Flash.   The upcoming TV Show "Gotham City" has nothing to do with Dark KNight or any other Batman property.   Smallville has nothing to do with any of the Superman movies.  They made "Man of Steel" intending it to be a completely standalone universe.  As they were making "Man of Steel", Warner Brothers saw how successful Avengers was and decided they needed to make a Justice League movie ASAP... so they started casting for a Justice League cash grab that would have starred completely different actors as Batman and Superman.  Yeah, the idiots intended for there to be two Supermans (one from Man of Steel  and one from Justice League) at the same time.  Luckily they realized that was a idiotic idea... so they decided they'd just shoehorn Batman into the sequel to "Man of Steel" (even though they never intended for them to exist in the same universe)... So they threw 50 million dollars at Christian Bale begging him to show up in the movie.  But luckily, Bale has artistic integrity and turned down the movie... feeling that NOlan's "Dark Knight" trilogy fully told the story and it would be spitting on that vision by having the character show up in a sci-fi film with space aliens.    Then they decided they'd just cast Ben Affleck as a "weathered and experienced" Batman.  I'm fine with that... but it's a little weird for Batman to show up in the next "Man of Steel" movie without any origin.  Was he just chillin out in Gotham during the events of the last "Man of Steel" movie?  Weird.  But Warner Brothers is impatient... so apparently Wonder Woman is going to show up in that movie too.  Probably other characters to.  They want to fast-track this thing to a Justice League movie.  Oh, and the Ryan Reynolds "Green Lantern" will have nothing to do with it either.  And that "Gotham" TV show will have nothing to do with the Ben Affleck Batman.  And they'll likely have a Flash in it that will have nothing to do with the TV Flash.   Warner Brothers is a mess.  But ultimately their goal is to have a movie universe where Batman, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc all cross over.  I think they are blowing an opportunity with their TV shows, though.  If it was up to me, the "Gotham" TV show would be the origin story for Affleck's Batman.  Why not?  They got some idiots running that studio.
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« Reply #249 on: April 07, 2014, 02:39:14 PM »

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LarBrd33 the deal Marvel made with Fox was for characters that are second tier and apparently they're going to share several of them potentially. There is one such character already in Captain America 2 (post-credits) and Days of Future past.

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« Reply #250 on: April 07, 2014, 02:40:37 PM »

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Superhero movies of 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st


Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016

Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
Here I color coded the 4 movie universes so you can see which characters can cross over.

Marvel Studios Cinematic Universe
Sony Pictures (Spider-Man)
Fox (X-Men/Fantastic Four)
Warner Brothers (DC Characters)

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« Reply #251 on: April 07, 2014, 02:45:34 PM »

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LarBrd33 the deal Marvel made with Fox was for characters that are second tier and apparently they're going to share several of them potentially. There is one such character already in Captain America 2 (post-credits) and Days of Future past.
I'm seeing Cap 2 tonight....  but my understanding of this was about crappy second tier characters like Quicksilver.   There's a person playing Quicksilver in the next Avengers movie.  There's an entirely different person (looks completely different) playing Quicksilver in the next X-Men movie.

That doesn't mean that the same Quicksilver can cross over between the two studios.

Quicksilver in Avengers 2 (played by Aaron Taylor-Johnson... also the star of Kick-Ass, but of course Kick-Ass is an entirely separate universe as well):



Quicksilver in "Days of Future Past":



So you can see... essentially alternate versions of the same a character existing in Marvel Cinematic Universe and in the Fox X-Men/Fantastic 4 universe.  Judging by the concept art, it looks like the Quicksilver that will be appearing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is far more true to the comics.

Unless there's some HUGE reveal in Cap 2 (i'm seeing it tonight), I don't think this means that any of the X-Men/Fantastic 4 major characters can start showing up in Avengers movies.

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Right I'm not talking about "crossing over" between movies. I mean as these movies keep spinning we're likely going to see multiples of supporting characters and some villains.

For example a lot of Marvel's cosmic villians could have been classified with the FF4 because of Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and all that. But now Marvel is trying to expand into that territory with Dr. Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc.

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« Reply #253 on: April 07, 2014, 02:52:55 PM »

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Right I'm not talking about "crossing over" between movies. I mean as these movies keep spinning we're likely going to see multiples of supporting characters and some villains.
That might happen, but I think they will be very small/secondary characters.... and judging by the Quicksilver thing, they will probably be rather different takes on the characters.

The studios couldn't even come to an agreement about having buildings show up.  They wanted to have Daily Bugle (spiderman) appear in the NY skyline during the Avengers.  Then they'd have Avengers tower show up in Spider-Man as a trade-off.  They couldn't even agree on a little easter egg like that.

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« Reply #254 on: April 07, 2014, 03:08:43 PM »

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LarBrd33 the deal Marvel made with Fox was for characters that are second tier and apparently they're going to share several of them potentially. There is one such character already in Captain America 2 (post-credits) and Days of Future past.
I'm seeing Cap 2 tonight....  but my understanding of this was about crappy second tier characters like Quicksilver.   There's a person playing Quicksilver in the next Avengers movie.  There's an entirely different person (looks completely different) playing Quicksilver in the next X-Men movie.

That doesn't mean that the same Quicksilver can cross over between the two studios.

Quicksilver in Avengers 2 (played by Aaron Taylor-Johnson... also the star of Kick-Ass, but of course Kick-Ass is an entirely separate universe as well):



Quicksilver in "Days of Future Past":



So you can see... essentially alternate versions of the same a character existing in Marvel Cinematic Universe and in the Fox X-Men/Fantastic 4 universe.  Judging by the concept art, it looks like the Quicksilver that will be appearing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is far more true to the comics.

Unless there's some HUGE reveal in Cap 2 (i'm seeing it tonight), I don't think this means that any of the X-Men/Fantastic 4 major characters can start showing up in Avengers movies.
No huge reveal, the first post credit scene (yes there are two) shows the twins, which obviously "sets up" Avengers 2.  The second post credit scene "sets up" Capt. Am. 3.
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