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Could Crawford be the answer to the Cs anemic offense?
« on: March 08, 2012, 09:33:21 PM »

Offline TripleOT

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The twittersphere is awash with word that a first round pick can get a team Jamal Crawford.  Boston desperately needs scoring, and that's one thing that Crawford can do.   He's a tweener guard, but could be the Cs Jason Terry type. 

If Ainge is convinced that these old geezers on the Cs have another deep playoff run in them, he's got to find a paint presence and some scoring in the next couple of weeks. Crawford has a player's option next year for $5m, so he might be only a rental, but since over half the later first round picks don't ever do much in the league, it might be worth the gamble.  The Clippers pic will be later first round. 

Trade JO for Crawford, sign a bought out Chris Kamen, and make one more run at a title.   

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Nah, he's a gunner.  Not gonna help this team, which struggles a lot because it relies too much on jumpshots.
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Re: Could Crawford be the answer to the Cs anemic offense?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 09:39:39 PM »

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Joey Crawford?

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Joey Crawford?

Sure! As a Celtic he would immediately T up everyone on the opposing team.
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Re: Could Crawford be the answer to the Cs anemic offense?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 09:51:29 PM »

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Joey Crawford?

Sure! As a Celtic he would immediately T up everyone on the opposing team.
Plus, it would be nice to have him on *our* side for once.

Don't think any force in the universe could convince him to "sign" with the Celtics though :)

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If I'm the bulls I would entertain this as rip insurance

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I sincerely believe that an all-offense, no-defense player is a bad fit for the Celtics.  If you think that describes Crawford, then it would be wrong to trade for him.  He'd have to be Ray Allen-good on offense for it to work out.
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The twittersphere is awash with word that a first round pick can get a team Jamal Crawford.  Boston desperately needs scoring, and that's one thing that Crawford can do.   He's a tweener guard, but could be the Cs Jason Terry type. 

If Ainge is convinced that these old geezers on the Cs have another deep playoff run in them, he's got to find a paint presence and some scoring in the next couple of weeks. Crawford has a player's option next year for $5m, so he might be only a rental, but since over half the later first round picks don't ever do much in the league, it might be worth the gamble.  The Clippers pic will be later first round. 

Trade JO for Crawford, sign a bought out Chris Kamen, and make one more run at a title.   

Kaman will not be bought out.  He WILL be traded...

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He would be good to throw out there with the second unit because he will basically shoot 75% of their shots.
If he's hot, he will keep our leads against the stronger teams- we have a huge problem letting our strong starts erode very quickly.
He would be good to throw out there in a small ball line up with Pietrus, Ray , Crawford, Rondo and Wilcox because he can drive much better than Ray or Pietrus.

Probably not worth a first round pick at this point though.
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I'd swap him for JO's expiring deal but I can't see Portland doing that.
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Honestly

I wouldn't mind him in the post season because he could single highhandedly win us a game or two in the playoffs

kind of like nate robinson but better

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I think you guys are overrating his liability on defense. I haven't watched much of him this year but it seems to me like the lack of defense is based on rep, but the stats tell a different story. According to Synergy, he's giving up .77 points per play, good for 79th in the NBA. According to 82games, he's split his time between PG and SG and has defended 1s to a PER of 12.6 and 2s to a PER of 14.3, both impressive stats. Last year, he defended 2s to a 13 PER.

Now, these stats aren't perfect. Both the Hawks and Blazers were 5 points better on defense with him off the court, and he does have a rep as a below-average defender.

I'm just saying that maybe his defense isn't as big a deal as some people are saying, and that it's worth the minor lumps for his offensive production off the bench.
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Re: Could Crawford be the answer to the Cs anemic offense?
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I'm just saying that maybe his defense isn't as big a deal as some people are saying, and that it's worth the minor lumps for his offensive production off the bench.

I think he's more indifferent to defense rather than outright bad. 

Here's the thing that concerns me.  He reportedly plans on opting out so he can chase a better contract and offense is what brings in the money.  Is he going to be a selfish player like Glen Davis, looking for his own shot whether or not it fits within the team's strategy?
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 11:25:49 AM »

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I think you guys are overrating his liability on defense. I haven't watched much of him this year but it seems to me like the lack of defense is based on rep, but the stats tell a different story. According to Synergy, he's giving up .77 points per play, good for 79th in the NBA. According to 82games, he's split his time between PG and SG and has defended 1s to a PER of 12.6 and 2s to a PER of 14.3, both impressive stats. Last year, he defended 2s to a 13 PER.

Now, these stats aren't perfect. Both the Hawks and Blazers were 5 points better on defense with him off the court, and he does have a rep as a below-average defender.

I'm just saying that maybe his defense isn't as big a deal as some people are saying, and that it's worth the minor lumps for his offensive production off the bench.

Nate McMillan has been happy with J.Crawford's defense this season.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 11:27:04 AM »

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One of the best backup guards in the league. He'd be a nice upgrade for the Celtics.

I think they'd have to make a move elsewhere to strengthen their frontcourt to make giving up a first for Crawford worthwhile. If they can pull off that other move, then yes, I'd love to add Jamal to the team.

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Notice how much of the C's offense is geared towards outside shooting? What do you think Crawford brings to the table on offense? Exactly, more outside shooting.

C's need a down low offensive and defensive presence and someone willing to create their shot of the dribble bringing it into the paint, not more guys hanging around the 3 point line looking for the ball so they can chuck it.