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Boris Diaw to be bought out ? C's should have Interest IMO
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:41:01 PM »

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The Bobacts appear willing to free Boris Diaw from his contract if they can reach an agreement on a buyout.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

I think he would be a good fit off the bench for the c's. He can play point forward he is a very good passer from the PF spot . He averages 7ppg,5.5 rebs and 4.5 assists per game this year . His FG% is way down from his career 49% (shooting 41% this year),but that could have a lot to do with who he's playing with.

If we aren't going to have a backup PG that can create looks for the bench they should be creative and sign Diaw as a point forward. We need a vet backup PF now that Bass is starting .

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 01:41:48 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 01:44:34 PM »

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The Bobacts appear willing to free Boris Diaw from his contract if they can reach an agreement on a buyout.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

I think he would be a good fit off the bench for the c's. He can play point forward he is a very good passer from the PF spot . He averages 7ppg,5.5 regs and 4.5 assists per game this year . His FG% is way down from his career 49% (shooting 41% this year),but that could have a lot to do with who he's playing with.

If we aren't going to have a backup PG that can create looks for the bench they should be creative and sign Diaw as a point forward. We need a vet backup PF now that Bass is starting .

Color me excited.  I'd love Diaw's passing/playmaking/offensive versatility on that 2nd unit. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 01:46:24 PM »

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I checked out the cited link, and could not find confirmation of the news item.

If Diaw does get bought out, I'd certainly be open to signing him for minimum money (which is all we can offer, I think). We'd have to open a roster spot to do so, either by trading someone out, or cutting someone.
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He's being let go because he doesn't shoot enough, doesn't drive the lane or play in the post enough, and passes all the time.

Sound familiar?

Don't we already have too many outside shooting PFs that overpass and don't play in the post?

We need a center. Diaw isn't one.

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 01:54:27 PM »

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With the exception of Garnett, the Celtics don't have a big who can shoot, pass or defend as well as Diaw.

I'd like to have him, but he'll probably join a contender. The Lakers would be a good fit for him.

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He's being let go because he doesn't shoot enough, doesn't drive the lane or play in the post enough, and passes all the time.

Sound familiar?

Don't we already have too many outside shooting PFs that overpass and don't play in the post?

We need a center. Diaw isn't one.

We don't have anyone off the bench who can facilitate an offense like Diaw can, and that includes our guards.  He's on par with Pierce as a playmaker at the forward spots.

Having Diaw allows you to benefit from playing guys like Bradley and Pietrus together defensively without forcing them out of their skill ranges offensively.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 02:03:46 PM »

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Youre right...they should.

But we're not going to be investing any additional money into the team this season when nobody in teh organziation things they can make a push

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 02:12:05 PM »

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We need a center. Diaw isn't one.

And if New Orleans was considering buying out Kaman, you'd have a point.  The question is whether picking up Diaw for the league minimum is better than other potential options, like trading JO and a 1st for Beasley.

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He's being let go because he doesn't shoot enough, doesn't drive the lane or play in the post enough, and passes all the time.

Sound familiar?

Don't we already have too many outside shooting PFs that overpass and don't play in the post?

We need a center. Diaw isn't one.

We don't have anyone off the bench who can facilitate an offense like Diaw can, and that includes our guards.  He's on par with Pierce as a playmaker at the forward spots.

Having Diaw allows you to benefit from playing guys like Bradley and Pietrus together defensively without forcing them out of their skill ranges offensively.
When Bradley is in the game and playing PG, only 4 of the most used 5 man lineups with Bradley in them don't have Pierce or Garnett in them. Pierce and Garnett are in 8 of those top 20 5 man lineups with Bradley as the PG. There are plenty of facilitators on the floor when Bradley is out there as the PG.

We don't need more facilitators on offense. We need people who can score and possible create their own offense by going to the basket with the ball or playing in the post.

THAT is what this team lacks as a whole but most especially when Rondo is off the floor.

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We can only dream of landing a guy like Diaw.  He is better than David West.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2012, 02:25:07 PM »

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He's being let go because he doesn't shoot enough, doesn't drive the lane or play in the post enough, and passes all the time.

Sound familiar?

Don't we already have too many outside shooting PFs that overpass and don't play in the post?

We need a center. Diaw isn't one.

We don't have anyone off the bench who can facilitate an offense like Diaw can, and that includes our guards.  He's on par with Pierce as a playmaker at the forward spots.

Having Diaw allows you to benefit from playing guys like Bradley and Pietrus together defensively without forcing them out of their skill ranges offensively.
When Bradley is in the game and playing PG, only 4 of the most used 5 man lineups with Bradley in them don't have Pierce or Garnett in them. Pierce and Garnett are in 8 of those top 20 5 man lineups with Bradley as the PG. There are plenty of facilitators on the floor when Bradley is out there as the PG.

We don't need more facilitators on offense. We need people who can score and possible create their own offense by going to the basket with the ball or playing in the post.

THAT is what this team lacks as a whole but most especially when Rondo is off the floor.

KG is less of a playmaker than a finisher at this point.  He can do a little out of the post, but he doesn't make up for our back-up guards deficiencies; he's certainly not going to initiate the offense.  Unless he's extremely aggressive, the offense tends to die whenever Rondo & Pierce are off the floor.

This is one of the main reasons why Doc plays Dooling, despite his deficiencies.  He wants someone on the court who can handle the ball, shoot a little and try to get away with not playing Rondo and Pierce 40+ minutes per game.

The C's have just enough guys who can make shots off the bench: Pietrus, Wilcox, even Dooling or Bradley on occasion, can knock down looks that are created for them.  That goes for KG and Ray when they see time with bench as well.

What they lack is someone other than Pierce and Rondo who can facilitate at a high level.  Diaw can do that.
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We can only dream of landing a guy like Diaw.  He is better than David West.

Maybe in 2004. Diaw better than West? He shows flashes, but he hasn't put together a consistent season in years.

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We need people who can score and possible create their own offense by going to the basket with the ball or playing in the post.

THAT is what this team lacks as a whole but most especially when Rondo is off the floor.

Just one more point in response.  The reason Diaw can facilitate so well is that he is a credible threat off the dribble (vs. big men) or in the post (vs. wings), as well as a high post passer and a guy who can push it in transition.  He just prefers (to a maddening degree) to use his match-up advantages to create shots for others instead of himself.
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