Celtics pursuing Josh Smith? (rumor)

[Celtics4ever]

If we are going after him it must mean we are keeping Rajon as they are buddies.

[Moranis]

Boston - Wes Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams
Atlanta - Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic
Minnesota - Paul Pierce


Minnesota gets that veteran playoff tested wing they need for a playoff run and gives up a guy that is probably gone (beasley), a young guy with some potential (johnson), and a poor contract they don't want anymore (darko). 

Atlanta adds a veteran shooter, depth at center, and a young scorer they can take a look at it.

Boston gets younger, more athletic, and more talented.

[jdz101]

Boston - Wes Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams
Atlanta - Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic
Minnesota - Paul Pierce


Minnesota gets that veteran playoff tested wing they need for a playoff run and gives up a guy that is probably gone (beasley), a young guy with some potential (johnson), and a poor contract they don't want anymore (darko). 

Atlanta adds a veteran shooter, depth at center, and a young scorer they can take a look at it.

Boston gets younger, more athletic, and more talented.

Minnesota get paul pierce for beasley and a pile of rubbish and we get josh smith and not much else for our two starting wings...how is this trade helping us at all?

[Jay_Diggles]

If Atlanta like 3 more 1st rounders next year I go all in with this trade!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7awzofo

[Moranis]

Boston - Wes Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams
Atlanta - Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic
Minnesota - Paul Pierce


Minnesota gets that veteran playoff tested wing they need for a playoff run and gives up a guy that is probably gone (beasley), a young guy with some potential (johnson), and a poor contract they don't want anymore (darko). 

Atlanta adds a veteran shooter, depth at center, and a young scorer they can take a look at it.

Boston gets younger, more athletic, and more talented.

Minnesota get paul pierce for beasley and a pile of rubbish and we get josh smith and not much else for our two starting wings...how is this trade helping us at all?

We get younger, faster, more athletic, and more talented.  The Celtics aren't a contender, so they need to get younger and start over.  Wes Johnson is the starting SG in Minnesota and Marvin Williams is a more than capable 3/4 6th man type player (who is starting in ATL).  Plus you get Josh Smith a legit all star talent for two 35 year old wings, one of which isn't going to be around next year anyway (unless the Celtics totally fail in free agency).  The Celtics need to bring in as much young talent as they can, and this trade does that.  Smith is 26, Williams is 25, Johnson is 24 (and was a top five pick 2 years ago).

[celticpride07]

if danny ainge can get josh smith for ray allen or smith +marvin for kg than i think its a no brainer. DO it!

ps. does anyone think ray and kg will be traded for younger players only to come back to the celtics as UFA in the offseason?

[bostonpatriot]

Boston - Wes Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams
Atlanta - Ray Allen, Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic
Minnesota - Paul Pierce


Minnesota gets that veteran playoff tested wing they need for a playoff run and gives up a guy that is probably gone (beasley), a young guy with some potential (johnson), and a poor contract they don't want anymore (darko). 

Atlanta adds a veteran shooter, depth at center, and a young scorer they can take a look at it.

Boston gets younger, more athletic, and more talented.

Atlanta gets fleeced in this deal. They would never do that.

I don't like it much for Boston either.

[arctic 3.0]

smiths numbers from last night: 24 pts, 19 rebounds,  4 assists and 3 blocks. can u imagine inserting him into our starting lineup? we are a good defensive team now, insert smith and we may be contenders!
rondo, pietrus, pierce,  smith, KG
with bradley wilcox and bass off the bench
(we would need to pick up shooting guard somewhere (pretty much anyone would be more effective than dooling)
that is one tough starting 5, talk about lock down D.

here's a three way deal with sota and atl that i think might get it done.
to atl: beas, allen, and clips pick
to sota: jo, stackhouse (or mcgrady) protected future pick (not 2012)
to bos: smith

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=786fhhs

[rondohondo]

smiths numbers from last night: 24 pts, 19 rebounds,  4 assists and 3 blocks.
rondo,
pietrus,
pierce,
josh smith,
KG
that is one tough starting 5, talk about lock down D,

here's a three way deal with sota and atl that i think might get it done.
to atl: beas, allen, protected future pick (not 2012)
to sota: jo, stackhouse (or mcgrady) and clips pick
to bos: smith

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=786fhhs

a 3 way deal where atl gets beasley makes a lot of sense to me, but minny needs to be getting at least a 1st back.

[arctic 3.0]

smiths numbers from last night: 24 pts, 19 rebounds,  4 assists and 3 blocks.
rondo,
pietrus,
pierce,
josh smith,
KG
that is one tough starting 5, talk about lock down D,

here's a three way deal with sota and atl that i think might get it done.
to atl: beas, allen, protected future pick (not 2012)
to sota: jo, stackhouse (or mcgrady) and clips pick
to bos: smith

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=786fhhs

a 3 way deal where atl gets beasley makes a lot of sense to me, but minny needs to be getting at least a 1st back.

 ATL gets the clips (or our) pick, i can't see giving sota our 1st this year and leave us with no  picks in this years deep draft. (do we have another pick coming from sota or somewhere else?)

i don't believe we can trade next years pick if atl gets ours. so either ATL takes the clips pick or we give sota our 2014. which could be really good if we fail in bringing in talent this summer (this makes me nervous).

[greenlion]

hickson  >. josh smith...

[arctic 3.0]

hickson  >. josh smith...

really?
i don't see it

[Neurotic Guy]

I think some here think getting JS give the C's a decent shot at Dwight Howard.  It's not even possible unless DA can solve a basic math problem.  Boston projects to be at about $34 million as is after this season -- which accounts for $4mil that Bass may opt out of and does not account for contracts for EMoore, or either of their 2012 #1 picks, or Jeff Green.

Unless Pierce or Rondo is involved in the trade for Smith, Smith's salary of $13m next year puts the C's at $47m.  Say Bass opts out and they end up with only 1 of their #1's, the salary ends up at something like $45m.  With cap projected at about $61m, a $16m starting salary is not nearly enough to get DH. 

So, how would folks propose to have the space to get DH AND have the pieces of the puzzle that will entice him. 

[arctic 3.0]

I think some here think getting JS give the C's a decent shot at Dwight Howard.  It's not even possible unless DA can solve a basic math problem.  Boston projects to be at about $34 million as is after this season -- which accounts for $4mil that Bass may opt out of and does not account for contracts for EMoore, or either of their 2012 #1 picks, or Jeff Green.

Unless Pierce or Rondo is involved in the trade for Smith, Smith's salary of $13m next year puts the C's at $47m.  Say Bass opts out and they end up with only 1 of their #1's, the salary ends up at something like $45m.  With cap projected at about $61m, a $16m starting salary is not nearly enough to get DH.  

So, how would folks propose to have the space to get DH AND have the pieces of the puzzle that will entice him.  

really don't think we have much of a shot at howard, not that intrigued by DW. everyone else available this summer are complimentary players. so we need to make trades to rebuild on the fly.
I think if we get smith and resign KG we should use whatever cap space we have to land a quality 2 and a back up center.

finally, adding smith this year gives us a legitimate shot at toppling the bulls/heat.
he is a terrific defender and shot blocker who will ignite the fast break offense with rondo.
pietrus, smith and pierce can all guard LBJ. The starting 5 might be the most dominate defense in the league.

[clover]

I think some here think getting JS give the C's a decent shot at Dwight Howard.  It's not even possible unless DA can solve a basic math problem.  Boston projects to be at about $34 million as is after this season -- which accounts for $4mil that Bass may opt out of and does not account for contracts for EMoore, or either of their 2012 #1 picks, or Jeff Green.

Unless Pierce or Rondo is involved in the trade for Smith, Smith's salary of $13m next year puts the C's at $47m.  Say Bass opts out and they end up with only 1 of their #1's, the salary ends up at something like $45m.  With cap projected at about $61m, a $16m starting salary is not nearly enough to get DH. 

So, how would folks propose to have the space to get DH AND have the pieces of the puzzle that will entice him. 

I think they're trying to move Pierce, but if it came down to it this summer and a chance for DH they could amnesty PP to make the numbers work.