could danny get the newest superstar of the nba wioth this trade?

[jyyzzoel]

A lot of people may laugh at this, but in about a year or two, it will be obvious:  If danny could trade brandon bass and a 2nd round pick to denver for chris andersen and kenneth faried... kenneth faried is going to be a superstar. if danny could get him... oh my goodness... he should have been a top 5 draft pick... what do you reckon?

[PosImpos]

Yep, a lot of people may laugh at this.

[jyyzzoel]

http://wagesofwins.com/2011/06/18/the-2011-win-score-numbers-for-nba-draft-prospects/

#21 - he is so far ahead of everyone. additionally, http://www.thenbageek.com/players the only player who has more Wins per 48 who has played a fair amount of games is lebron james. faried is an animal.

[Moranis]

Here I thought this was about Jeremy Lin.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

We have a Kenneth Faried in Bass minus the defensive abilities. We going to trade with Denver, lets trade for Koufos. I can so much say that I'd be willing to offer the late first round pick for him. Young legit big man and still has some upside.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Faried is going to be a good NBA player and he plays well with Rondo from what I 've seen.  If we rebuild around Rondo this is exactly the kind of guys we need.

Koufos is a wimp.   He could not bang if his life depended on it.  While I like his skill set.   His temperment is that of a big who plays outside the paint.

[Rondo2287]

I'm not sure how Faried will pan out as an NBA player, but I know Denver let K-mart walk because they were so intrigued with the guy.  That makes me think they would value him more than Bass.

[LooseCannon]

A lot of people may laugh at this, but in about a year or two, it will be obvious:  If danny could trade brandon bass and a 2nd round pick to denver for chris andersen and kenneth faried... kenneth faried is going to be a superstar. if danny could get him... oh my goodness... he should have been a top 5 draft pick... what do you reckon?

If you really felt that Faried is a superstar, you would have proposed a 1st round pick, not a 2nd.

[Fan from VT]

Rondo for Faried and Lawson?

[Rondo2287]

Rondo for Faried and Lawson?

That might be interesting I am a big Lawson fan and he has made a big leap recently

[jyyzzoel]

A lot of people may laugh at this, but in about a year or two, it will be obvious:  If danny could trade brandon bass and a 2nd round pick to denver for chris andersen and kenneth faried... kenneth faried is going to be a superstar. if danny could get him... oh my goodness... he should have been a top 5 draft pick... what do you reckon?

If you really felt that Faried is a superstar, you would have proposed a 1st round pick, not a 2nd.

i would offer a 2nd because thats probably his perceived value, rather than real value. remember last season danny did get close to closing a deal that was a james harden for perkins swap. in retrospect does that seem fair? no, but at them time it was perceived to be close to fair by okc. learn how to negotiate.

[Fan from VT]

A lot of people may laugh at this, but in about a year or two, it will be obvious:  If danny could trade brandon bass and a 2nd round pick to denver for chris andersen and kenneth faried... kenneth faried is going to be a superstar. if danny could get him... oh my goodness... he should have been a top 5 draft pick... what do you reckon?

If you really felt that Faried is a superstar, you would have proposed a 1st round pick, not a 2nd.

i would offer a 2nd because thats probably his perceived value, rather than real value. remember last season danny did get close to closing a deal that was a james harden for perkins swap. in retrospect does that seem fair? no, but at them time it was perceived to be close to fair by okc. learn how to negotiate.

That is definitely NOT his perceived value.

Think about it:

-In college he was a 17.3/14.5/2.3 block guy, but was docked because he went to a small schoool.

-He was considered shrot (6' but has a full 7'0 wingspan, increasing his defensive potential.

-Entering the draft, he was considered a sleeper because it was unknown if his stats would translate; if they did, he'd be a steal.

-He was then drafted in the first round at 22nd overall.

-Now in his rookie season, he started on the bench and has since earned playing time for a >.500 playoff team in the more competitive west, and has really excelled in his time, with very good points per minute, great rebounds per minute, very good blocks per minute, and efficient scoring.


So we have a very productive college player potential steal draft pick taken at #22 overall and very quickly out-producing his (first round) draft position...His perceived value is Definitely a lottery pick, not an average first round pick and definitely not a second rounder.

[jyyzzoel]

A lot of people may laugh at this, but in about a year or two, it will be obvious:  If danny could trade brandon bass and a 2nd round pick to denver for chris andersen and kenneth faried... kenneth faried is going to be a superstar. if danny could get him... oh my goodness... he should have been a top 5 draft pick... what do you reckon?

If you really felt that Faried is a superstar, you would have proposed a 1st round pick, not a 2nd.

i would offer a 2nd because thats probably his perceived value, rather than real value. remember last season danny did get close to closing a deal that was a james harden for perkins swap. in retrospect does that seem fair? no, but at them time it was perceived to be close to fair by okc. learn how to negotiate.

That is definitely NOT his perceived value.

Think about it:

-In college he was a 17.3/14.5/2.3 block guy, but was docked because he went to a small schoool.

-He was considered shrot (6' but has a full 7'0 wingspan, increasing his defensive potential.

-Entering the draft, he was considered a sleeper because it was unknown if his stats would translate; if they did, he'd be a steal.

-He was then drafted in the first round at 22nd overall.

-Now in his rookie season, he started on the bench and has since earned playing time for a >.500 playoff team in the more competitive west, and has really excelled in his time, with very good points per minute, great rebounds per minute, very good blocks per minute, and efficient scoring.


So we have a very productive college player potential steal draft pick taken at #22 overall and very quickly out-producing his (first round) draft position...His perceived value is Definitely a lottery pick, not an average first round pick and definitely not a second rounder.

i agree with you on the numbers, but faried wasnt picked for the rookie sophmore game, he doesnt really get played too much by george karl... i totally, totally agree with you on his potential and outperforming his draft position, but i think if you asked most poeple (and hopefully denvers front office) they wouldn't think he's worth a lottery pick (although he is worth a first rounder: a top 10). he's still a little under the radar at this point though. everything you said though is his actual value, and i agree.

[Q_FBE]

Faried might get less PT in Boston because Doc sticks with veterans. This makes me believe we will go with younger proven veterans than taking flyers on rookies.

[fairweatherfan]

I don't think Faried is a superstar in the making but I'd still do this deal - we lock up a young big on his rookie deal who at least clearly has some chops in exchange for a guy who might not stick around next year and a 2nd.