if joe johnson knee does not recover soon enough do you think atl can use ray?

[Smokeeye123]

Ray Allen and Bass + Clippers pick for Josh Smith.

They should seriously entertain that.

[Geo123]

Ray Allen and Bass + Clippers pick for Josh Smith.

They should seriously entertain that.

Now why would the Hawks do that?  If they think they're a contending team they can't get rid of their only big man and if they're not a contending team they don't want Ray ....

[nickagneta]

I thought JJ's injury was minor and he was to be back right after the All-Star break?

Why would they do this?

[LooseCannon]

If Atlanta were to do a mid-season trade for Ray Allen, they would not give up a key rotation player.  The logical Boston-Atlanta trade involving Ray Allen is probably Ray for Kirk Heinrich and a second round pick.

Gotta get a first rounder in this deal; otherwise there is no point. I see the reasoning behind it though if we can't get our act together. Hinrich has been completely useless in Atlanta so no way settle for a second rounder. That's not worth Ray's Bird rights in a potential S+T after the season.

They have no leverage there. But I could see it. Have Hinrich back up Rondo and move Pietrus to the starting lineup.

Should the Celtics do it?  Probably not.  But I think it is the realistic value that you get for Ray Allen.  For anyone proposing a trade involving Ray Allen, ask if it makes any sense if you replace Ray Allen with a completely worthless player who has an expiring contract and a second round draft pick.  If it's not even close, then your trade idea is probably moronic.