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Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« on: February 17, 2012, 11:10:35 PM »
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Boston Celtics (15-14) at Detroit Pistons (10-22)
Sunday, February 19
6:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #30, Road Game #11
TV:  CSNNE, FSD,  LP 751/752 (DTV)
Radio:  WEEI, 97.1 FM The Ticket
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Probable Starters
PGSGSFPFC
Rajon Rondo.... Ray Allen.... Paul Pierce.....Kevin Garnett.... Jermaine O'Neal

Celtics Reserves

Marquis Daniels
Greg Steimsma
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twaun Moore
Keyon Dooling
Mickael Pietrus
Chris Wilcox
Avery Bradley 

Injuries
Sasha Pavlovic (wrist)  day to day
Brandon Bass  (knee)  out





Probable Starters
PG SG SF PF C
Brandon Knight...Rodney Stuckey...Tayshaun Prince...Jason Maxiell..Greg Monroe 

Pistons Bench
Ben Wallace
Jonas Jerebko
Brandon Knight
Austin Daye
Damien Wilkins
Vernon Macklin
Will Bynum
Ben Gordon
Walker Russell


Injuries

Charlie Villanueva  (foot)  out

Team Connections

Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva and Ray Allen all attended the University of Connecticut
Tayshaun Prince, Brandon Knight and Rajon Rondo attended the University of Kentucky
Pistons Head Coach Lawrence Frank was an assistant coach with the Celtics during the 2010‐11 season
Sasha Pavlovic and Ben Wallace were teammates on the Cleveland Cavaliers from 2007‐09
Pistons Assistant Coach Roy Rogers played for the Celtics during the 1997‐98 season and was an assistant coach during the 2010‐11 season.
Chris Wilcox played for the Pistons from 2009-11. 

Key Matchups 
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Rajon Rondo vs Brandon Knight
 In the last meeting between these two teams, Rondo won this matchup, but the Celtics lost the game.  Rondo finished with 35 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals.  Knight had 6 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 steal.   The Celtics need Rondo to be aggressive but he needs to balance his own scoring with setting up his teammates. 

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Paul Pierce vs Tayshaun Prince
This has been a great matchup over the years,  Prince's length can give Pierce problems but Pierce's strength can also give Prince problems.  These two played each other fairly even in the last game with Pierce putting up 10 points, 1 rebound and 5 assists while Prince had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.  Pierce has been in a mini slump lately and the Celtics need more from their Captain. 

Honorable Mention

Ray Allen vs Rodney Stuckey
Stuckey scored 25 points in their last meeting while Ray put up just 10.  The Celtics' offense has been sluggish and their ball movement has been terrible and that explains why Ray has struggles in the last few games.  Ray hit a couple of big shots in the loss to the Bulls and that may get him going but he needs Rondo to find him when he's open. 

Game Notes
This is "Old Coach Week" for the Celtics.  They have faced both Tom Thibodeau and Lawrence Frank twice this week.  They are 1-1 against the Bulls and hopefully, after this game, they will be 1-1 against the Pistons as well. This is the 3rd and final meeting between these two teams and it is the rubber match.  Both teams one one game in Boston and this will be the lone game in Detroit. 

In Wednesday's game against these Pistons, the Celtics looked uninterested and were a step behind on both offense and defense.  They allowed the Pistons to out-rebound them 44-33.   We can also point to just 16 assists as a team as a reason they lost.  They also shot just 59% from the line, which indicates a lack of focus. 

The Celtics played without Kevin Garnett, which left a hole in the defense which the Pistons were glad to use to score seemingly at will.  Greg Monroe went off for 22 points.  Bill Russell was on hand to watch the carnage and received several standing ovations from the crowd.  The game was so bad, they needed something to cheer about.   

 The Celtics have a 2 game losing streak going while the Pistons are on a 2 game winning streak.  Both teams are 6-4 in their last 10 games.  The Pistons are 7-10 at home while the Celtics are just 4-6 on the road. 

The Celtics owe this team a beat down and hopefully they will come ready to play.   If not, they could be on a 3 game losing streak at the end of the game. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - It all begins with defense.  The Celtics have been winning with defense and they have to continue to play tough lock down defense. They have the top defense in the league and they need to keep playing like it. 

Rebound - The Celtics need to be aggressive on the boards.  Rebounding is effort and if the Celtics are putting the effort out to grab rebounds then that effort will translate to the other areas of their game.  In the last meeting between these two teams the Pistons out-rebounded the Celtics by 11.  In every recent loss the Celtics have lost the battle of the boards.   That isn't a coincidence.  They must put out effort to box out and to grab the rebounds. 

Focus
- The Celtics have been very sloppy with their passes and have allowed defenders to just swipe the ball.  At times they drive into a triple team and just lose the ball.  They have also been missing from the charity stripe.  They shot just 59% on free throws in the last meeting with the Pistions.   All of this is due to a lack of focus.  When they are focused and locked in they don't commit near as many errors and they are more efficient on offense.  They must come into this game focused on getting the win.

Energy and Aggressiveness
- The Celtics have lacked both energy and aggressiveness in their last two games, both losses.  They have played sluggish, allowing their opponents to get the majority of the 50-50 balls.  They aren't aggressive in going to the boards and in boxing out.  They need to run and to play with energy for 48 minutes.  Anything less is unacceptable. 

X-Factors
Focus and Desire
The Celtics need to want this game.  They were embarrassed by first the Pistons and then the Bulls.  they need to play like they want it and stay focused on what it takes to get it. 

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 11:22:46 AM »
Official Report 

Tom Washington
Over his 20-season NBA officiating career, Tom Washington has officiated 1,196+ regular season games, 103 playoff games and two Finals games. He was a member of the crew that officiated the 1995 Schick Rookie Game, the 1996 Japan
Games in Tokyo and the 2004 NBA All-Star Game. In addition to his 20 seasons with the NBA, Washington has two years of CBA officiating experience. He has one year collegiate officiating experience and five years of high school officiating experience in his hometown of Philadelphia. The Celtics are 1-1 this season with Washington on the court, with the loss being the Pacer game where the Celtics were called for 24 fouls compared to 18 for the Pacers. The win was the 87-56 Orlando beat down in which the Celtics took 19 free throws to 30 for the Magic. They are 9-1 over their last 10 games with Washington. The Pistons are 3-7 in their last 10 with Washington as a ref. His home W/L record this season is 15-9.

Brent Barnaky
Barnaky enters his second NBA season having officiated 60 NBA games. Barnaky came to the NBA with 10 years of collegiate officiating experience, including three years of N.I.T. Tournament play. He officiated the 2008, 2009 and 2010 NBA D-League Playoffs, and the 2009 and 2010 NBA D-League Finals. He entered the NBA last season as one of five refs chosen from the D-League to officiate a handful of games the previous season. Barnaky also has spent time training and developing other officials at referee camps. He has only officiated 4 games for the Celtics previously, 2 wins and 2 losses. The only game this season was the 79-71 loss to the Suns where the Suns took 16 free throws to 9 for the Celtics. He has called 7 Pistions games, 2 wins and 5 losses. His home W/L record this season is 11-9.

Sean Wright
Wright's first season in the league was 2005-06. Sean Wright has officiated 353 regular season and five playoff games in his six seasons. Prior to joining the NBA, Wright was an official in the NBA Development League where he participated in the playoffs in 2003-04 and the championship game in 2005. Wright’s collegiate officiating experience includes working in the SEC, Colonial, Big South, Southern,
Ohio Valley, Atlantic Sun and Southwestern Athletic Conferences. He participated in the Ohio Valley Conference championship in 2003 and the Men’s NCAA Division II tournament in 2004. He officiated the Eduardo Najera Foundation charity basketball game in 2006 and the Terrell Owens Foundation charity basketball game in 2005.  The Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10 with Wright on the court. He officiated a win over the Nets this season in which the Celtics took 21 free throws to 10 for the Nets. The Pistons are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Wright. His home W/L record this season is 14-10.

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 12:11:30 PM »
Unless Paul Pierce can play like KOBE (with ENERGY and PURPOSE) or be a true million dollar alstar he is being paid yearly and KG has to at least play, then  it will be hard for us to win any game , even against the sucky teams. I predicted the loss at home to the Pistons. Without PP and KG playing decent ball, we are no more than doormat for 500+ teams.

I'm predicting a win

Hurry up Lottery.    

  

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 04:32:51 PM »
KG is playing at the level. He is not the problem, see him below compared vs Nowitzky and Tim Duncan.

KG: 28 g, 30.5 mpg, 49.5%, 7.8 rpg, 14.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.1 bpg

DN: 27 g, 32.4 mpg, 45.4%, 6.3 rpg, 18.6 ppg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 bpg

TD: 30 g, 27.8 mpg, 46.7%, 8.6 rpg, 13.7 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 bpg

There other three players: RA, PP and JO, whose mpg should be lowered. PP and RA are averaging around 35 mpg, they should be around 25 mpg. Taking more rest, and allowing younger legs to be more playing time and defending: Pietrus, Sasha, Daniels, even Bradley and Dooling for RA.

Flat out, JO has to go out of the starting line up. His playing time should be 15 mpg, instead of 25. CW should be the starting C, like in the game they won vs Bulls. CW started and played 26 minutes, made 11 points (5/6 shooting), grabbed 9 boards, blocked 1 shot, and had only 2 TO. JO should come from the bench as backup, but also GS should play not less time than JO, and eventually more, as long as he is regaining confidence.

I read minutes ago in other blog this proposed lineup to start, and I like it way more than the one Doc is sticking to:
Rondo, Moore (instead RA), PP, KG and CW (instead of JO).

However, whatever it is I hope Doc Rivers comes tonight with any lineup different than the recipe for disaster he sticking to so far.

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 05:00:51 PM »
No KG:

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics don't expect him to rejoin the team in time for tomorrow's game at the #Mavs, either.

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#Celticstalk The #Celtics will be without Kevin Garnett. He is not with the team due to a personal matter.

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 05:08:26 PM »
KG is playing at the level. He is not the problem, see him below compared vs Nowitzky and Tim Duncan.

KG: 28 g, 30.5 mpg, 49.5%, 7.8 rpg, 14.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.1 bpg

DN: 27 g, 32.4 mpg, 45.4%, 6.3 rpg, 18.6 ppg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 bpg

TD: 30 g, 27.8 mpg, 46.7%, 8.6 rpg, 13.7 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 bpg

There other three players: RA, PP and JO, whose mpg should be lowered. PP and RA are averaging around 35 mpg, they should be around 25 mpg. Taking more rest, and allowing younger legs to be more playing time and defending: Pietrus, Sasha, Daniels, even Bradley and Dooling for RA.

Flat out, JO has to go out of the starting line up. His playing time should be 15 mpg, instead of 25. CW should be the starting C, like in the game they won vs Bulls. CW started and played 26 minutes, made 11 points (5/6 shooting), grabbed 9 boards, blocked 1 shot, and had only 2 TO. JO should come from the bench as backup, but also GS should play not less time than JO, and eventually more, as long as he is regaining confidence.

I read minutes ago in other blog this proposed lineup to start, and I like it way more than the one Doc is sticking to:
Rondo, Moore (instead RA), PP, KG and CW (instead of JO).

However, whatever it is I hope Doc Rivers comes tonight with any lineup different than the recipe for disaster he sticking to so far.
35mpg is not too much for Ray and PP when we are desperately trying to hold onto our playoff spot. If Doc follows your suggestion and plays them 25 mpg, we can kiss goodbye to the possibility (no matter how slim) of our core making one last run.
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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 05:22:02 PM »
Unless Paul Pierce can play like KOBE (with ENERGY and PURPOSE) or be a true million dollar alstar he is being paid yearly and KG has to at least play, then  it will be hard for us to win any game , even against the sucky teams. I predicted the loss at home to the Pistons. Without PP and KG playing decent ball, we are no more than doormat for 500+ teams.

I'm predicting a win

Hurry up Lottery.    







To you, FL: Another job well done. TP as always and GO CELTICS!

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 05:36:33 PM »
Celtics blowout win. It will eventually happen why not today!

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 05:57:17 PM »
Yup ..thats what I'm hoping, they see a undermaned tire old team drag into their house and don't think we can win.

Hope we open a "can" on them .

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 06:02:47 PM »
No KG:

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics don't expect him to rejoin the team in time for tomorrow's game at the #Mavs, either.

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics will be without Kevin Garnett. He is not with the team due to a personal matter.


Well, I don't think KG is who more needs bench time out the Big 3, but anyway this can be an opportunity for something positive if JJJ grabs the chance of playing big time. He has played well  a couple of times before, but it seems to be not enough for coach to give him more minutes. Tonight maybe his chance, Lin kind of chance.

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 06:03:56 PM »
No KG. Come on Doc surprise me! Wilcox and JJJ start.
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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 06:10:31 PM »
Good game to end the bad streak...against the team it started against

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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 06:10:56 PM »
No KG! Ugh! I already feel down 10 points.
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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 06:11:33 PM »
No KG. Come on Doc surprise me! Wilcox and JJJ start.

Stupid Doc. >:(
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Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 06:12:58 PM »
Jermaine starts games soo well, usually.  It's too bad he's done after six minutes or so

 

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