Trade idea with Orlando

[EJPLAYA]

How about this blockbuster idea...

Rondo for JJ Reddick and Chris Duhon and 2 first round picks. Works in the trade machine.

Why Boston does it: Boston gets 2 more first rounders in the next couple years to add to their depth of talent as the Big 3 heads off into the sunset. Duhon can play solidly enough at the point to keep us in contention. Sure he's not close to Rondo's level, but playing with the big 3 and JO is definitely going to make him better than he is now. If he can't beat out Keyon Dooling then HE becomes the backup. Might even give Avery Bradley a bit more time to see if he can actually play.  JJ gives us a very good backup 2 to give Ray some rest off the bench, plus a possible replacement a year or so from now. This allows Marquis to play more minutes at the 3 spot which gives Paul more rest.

Why Orlando does it: Dwight Howard!!! This gives Dwight a legitimate reason to re-sign with Orlando. If Dwight walks anyway then they have a legitimate trade piece still to be able to blow things up. This year they will be a lot better team with a true PG and won't really lose a lot of their pieces.

[BballTim]

How about this blockbuster idea...

Rondo for JJ Reddick and Chris Duhon and 2 first round picks. Works in the trade machine.

Why Boston does it: Boston gets 2 more first rounders in the next couple years to add to their depth of talent as the Big 3 heads off into the sunset. Duhon can play solidly enough at the point to keep us in contention. Sure he's not close to Rondo's level, but playing with the big 3 and JO is definitely going to make him better than he is now. If he can't beat out Keyon Dooling then HE becomes the backup. Might even give Avery Bradley a bit more time to see if he can actually play.  JJ gives us a very good backup 2 to give Ray some rest off the bench, plus a possible replacement a year or so from now. This allows Marquis to play more minutes at the 3 spot which gives Paul more rest.

Why Orlando does it: Dwight Howard!!! This gives Dwight a legitimate reason to re-sign with Orlando. If Dwight walks anyway then they have a legitimate trade piece still to be able to blow things up. This year they will be a lot better team with a true PG and won't really lose a lot of their pieces.

  If a point guard like Duhon is enough for Boston to contend, a point guard like Rondo will make us favorites to win it all.

[snively]

Poorly disguised satire?

[OttawaCeltic]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7hfjssm

Celtics -> Orlando: Rondo,Bradley,Stinksma
Orlando -> Celtics: Nelson,Redick, 1st round 2012 pick, 1st round 2013 pick

The reasons are the same, I just knew that Orlando would want to get rid of Nelson to clear up for Rondo's run with them. But I have a question, why are we interested to trade Rondo instead of KG while:
1. Rondo is younger, which we want to get as
2. KG keeps on getting worst each year
3. KG has a contract that chokes our cap space tightly
4. ^and I don't want us to sign him for another contract over $10 million next year
5. ^ cause he isn't worth it

[Fafnir]

Duhon was one of the worst backup PGs in the league last year. Almost as bad as Gilbert Arenas....

[EJPLAYA]

How about this blockbuster idea...

Rondo for JJ Reddick and Chris Duhon and 2 first round picks. Works in the trade machine.

Why Boston does it: Boston gets 2 more first rounders in the next couple years to add to their depth of talent as the Big 3 heads off into the sunset. Duhon can play solidly enough at the point to keep us in contention. Sure he's not close to Rondo's level, but playing with the big 3 and JO is definitely going to make him better than he is now. If he can't beat out Keyon Dooling then HE becomes the backup. Might even give Avery Bradley a bit more time to see if he can actually play.  JJ gives us a very good backup 2 to give Ray some rest off the bench, plus a possible replacement a year or so from now. This allows Marquis to play more minutes at the 3 spot which gives Paul more rest.

Why Orlando does it: Dwight Howard!!! This gives Dwight a legitimate reason to re-sign with Orlando. If Dwight walks anyway then they have a legitimate trade piece still to be able to blow things up. This year they will be a lot better team with a true PG and won't really lose a lot of their pieces.

  If a point guard like Duhon is enough for Boston to contend, a point guard like Rondo will make us favorites to win it all.

Duhon is a solid defensive PG that can bring the ball up under pressure. He shoots the 3 at a very good clip and is a better mid range and FT shooter. My argument is that Rondo's deficiencies cost us more than we would like to admit, and that Duhon is not a ton worse than the Rondo of 2008 when we won it all. He can bring the ball up the floor and play solid defense. It will get the Big 3 and JO more shots which IMO is a smart idea. The ability to get more rest for Ray and Paul through the season by adding JJ will more than compensate for the drop in PG play.

Let's face it. We aren't going to beat the Heat in a playoff series based on Rondo's play anyway. It will take huge efforts from the big 3 and JO.

[EJPLAYA]

Duhon was one of the worst backup PGs in the league last year. Almost as bad as Gilbert Arenas....

Duhon is a solid defensive player and can get the ball up the floor. No one is looking for him to score a ton. Get the ball in Ray or PP's hands and get into the offense. If he can't play at a level he has in the past, then Dooling can do the same. Tweak the trade and get Jameer Nelson if you need to.

[PosImpos]

yuck.  im not sure what the motivation is for this trade at all.

[Fafnir]

Duhon was one of the worst backup PGs in the league last year. Almost as bad as Gilbert Arenas....

Duhon is a solid defensive player and can get the ball up the floor. No one is looking for him to score a ton. Get the ball in Ray or PP's hands and get into the offense. If he can't play at a level he has in the past, then Dooling can do the same. Tweak the trade and get Jameer Nelson if you need to.

He actually had a huge problem getting the ball across half court and initiating the offense in Orlando last year. His turnover percentage was a whopping 30% despite getting very few assists and using few possessions.

From Hollinger's breakdown:

OK, um, what was that??!?!?! Signed with the expectation that he'd be a safe, no-frills backup point guard, Duhon was such a disaster that his play became a major catalyst behind the Gilbert Arenas trade. Prior to that he lost his job to Jason Williams, which was quite an achievement considering Williams could scarcely move.

The most fascinating of his many eye-popping stats is that Duhon was dead last in turnover ratio among point guards despite virtually never attacking the paint. This wouldn't seem possible, yet he had miscues on nearly one-fifth of the possessions he used. At times, it seemed like a battle just for him to get the rock over halfcourt.

Duhon has been a serviceable spot-up shooter his whole career, but last season he was a bad shooter from everywhere -- he made 25.0 percent on 3s, 56.2 percent from the line, and 46.5 percent on 2s. He was the fourth-worst point guard in true shooting percentage and the fifth-worst in rebound rate.

His defense was his only positive attribute last year, Dooling played better than he did last year.

[snively]

Wow, ejplaya, I really thought you were kidding.  You really want to trade our all-star starting PG for the Magic's 3rd string PG, a solid back-up for Ray and two probably late 20s 1st rounders?

[Smokeeye123]

yuck.  im not sure what the motivation is for this trade at all.

You'd think the Magic would want to get as much talent as possible. Rondo is a definite upgrade from what they have now at PG.

[thenotoriousjts]

First of all, don't let trade machine influence whether or not its a good deal. Second of all, Duhon doesn't belong in the same sentence as Rondo. I honestly don't feel like going into every detail as to why this isn't a good idea. Look at the players, not the trade machine.

[Celtics4ever]

JJ is ok but Rondo is better. Duhon is a fringe player in the NBA.

[RyNye]

Duhon is a solid defensive player and can get the ball up the floor. No one is looking for him to score a ton. Get the ball in Ray or PP's hands and get into the offense. If he can't play at a level he has in the past, then Dooling can do the same. Tweak the trade and get Jameer Nelson if you need to.

Think about that bolded part for a second.

Rondo's ONLY deficiency is that he doesn't score that much. Other than that, he is the best defensive PG in the league, and arguably the best passer.

If you aren't looking for a volume scoring PG, why on EARTH would you trade Rondo? There's no possible way to upgrade the other two areas of the point guard position!

[European NBA fan]

First of all, don't let trade machine influence whether or not its a good deal. Second of all, Duhon doesn't belong in the same sentence as Rondo. I honestly don't feel like going into every detail as to why this isn't a good idea. Look at the players, not the trade machine.

Even if you look at the trade machine, this is a terrible trade. ESPN's prediction for the Celtics: -9 wins. We could actually end in the lottery, even with the Big 3.

Imo, the only reason to trade Rondo now is for an upgrade; CP3, D-Will or Rose (maybe Westbrook, but he has some deficiencies of his own). You could consider John Wall, if he was handed to us on a silver platter (which he never will be). The rest aren't good enough to make the Celtics contenders.