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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2011, 09:21:16 PM »

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Indiana would only get Rondo in return for being a third team. Either Boston, New Orleans, Indiana or Boston, New Orleans, Orlando.

Celtics want Paul.

Pacers want Rondo and to get rid of Granger

New Orleans wants young talent.

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2011, 01:42:00 AM »

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I'd modify the above to look more like this.

Bos- Paul

Ind- Rondo, J.Green, Bos 1st ('12 & '14)

NO- Granger, Collison, J.Johnson, Clippers pick (via Bos)

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2011, 02:00:53 AM »

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a 2nd round pick in a weak draft?

just fyi, JuJuan Johnson was a first round pick.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2011, 04:40:37 AM »

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The pursuit of Chris Paul is a pipe dream.  That is, his first, second and third choice is New York.  Plain and simple.

On the other hand, why can't Ainge discuss a trade involving Rajon Rondo just between he and Indiana?  I'm more inclined to keep Rondo but if Indiana offered Roy Hibbert and Paul George.  I would listen...  But, I know this type of move won't appease others.

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2011, 09:39:26 AM »

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I'd almost trade Rondo for Collison and Hibbert straight up.  Gets the team younger and more depth down low and Collison is not Rondo, but he isn't terrible either.  I'd take on Posey if they wanted as well to provide more depth or to use as a trade chip later on as well.  Collison and Hibbert make way less money then Rondo next year so we'd have even more cap room and less positions of need.  They would also be valuable trading chips in a sign and trade for someone like Howard.  Unless we seriously upgrade the roster we aren't winning a title, so the Celtics might as well use what they have to start looking for that next title.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2011, 09:43:32 AM »

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The pursuit of Chris Paul is a pipe dream.  That is, his first, second and third choice is New York.  Plain and simple.

On the other hand, why can't Ainge discuss a trade involving Rajon Rondo just between he and Indiana?  I'm more inclined to keep Rondo but if Indiana offered Roy Hibbert and Paul George.  I would listen...  But, I know this type of move won't appease others.

Has to include and NBA starting PG.
Are we gonna have Delonte or Avery run the point in the final year of the Big 3's reign?

Collison, George and Hibbert.
Deal.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2011, 09:48:50 AM »

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The pursuit of Chris Paul is a pipe dream.  That is, his first, second and third choice is New York.  Plain and simple.

On the other hand, why can't Ainge discuss a trade involving Rajon Rondo just between he and Indiana?  I'm more inclined to keep Rondo but if Indiana offered Roy Hibbert and Paul George.  I would listen...  But, I know this type of move won't appease others.

Has to include and NBA starting PG.
Are we gonna have Delonte or Avery run the point in the final year of the Big 3's reign?

Collison, George and Hibbert.
Deal.

I'd also take Psycho T instead of Hibbert if we could get a first rounder as well.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2011, 10:17:20 AM »

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Granger and Hibbert would make me ecstatic

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2011, 10:59:54 AM »

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THE ONLY trade I would consider from that roster

Rondo,Green,Bradley and Clippers pick
Granger,Collison and Hibbert

Sure, its a majority overhaul of Indiana's talent, but its fair trade IMO.
We take on Granger's big contract plus a PG and C with huge upside.
Indy gets their veteran allstar PG, a SF with enough upside to be an allstar given the minutes and confidence and a good pick.


Next to that, Indy would only be a 3rd team facilitator to get CP3 for me.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2011, 11:31:30 AM »

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That isn't bad but I am not too impressed with IND talent overall.  No one really knocks me out and who knows if the upside will pan out.  I too, find Hibbert intriguing but he seems more like Dikembe than Ewing to me.  Frankly he isn't even Dikembe at this point.

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 11:34:17 AM »

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THE ONLY trade I would consider from that roster

Rondo,Green,Bradley and Clippers pick
Granger,Collison and Hibbert

Sure, its a majority overhaul of Indiana's talent, but its fair trade IMO.
We take on Granger's big contract plus a PG and C with huge upside.
Indy gets their veteran allstar PG, a SF with enough upside to be an allstar given the minutes and confidence and a good pick.


Next to that, Indy would only be a 3rd team facilitator to get CP3 for me.

Wow, we give up a draft pick in that deal?  I'd like to see us get Paul George back too then or not give up the draft pick.  Rondo is the best "piece" in that deal by a lot.
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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2011, 09:59:23 PM »

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The pursuit of Chris Paul is a pipe dream.  That is, his first, second and third choice is New York.  Plain and simple.

On the other hand, why can't Ainge discuss a trade involving Rajon Rondo just between he and Indiana?  I'm more inclined to keep Rondo but if Indiana offered Roy Hibbert and Paul George.  I would listen...  But, I know this type of move won't appease others.

Has to include and NBA starting PG.
Are we gonna have Delonte or Avery run the point in the final year of the Big 3's reign?

Collison, George and Hibbert.
Deal.


My feeling was that Ainge would sign a free agent point guard.  It seems to me that Boston desires to move on from Rondo.  However, the team lacks young assets to do a similar trade as was done to acquire Kevin Garnett.  Hence, my interest in the young players that Indiana has.  Worst case scenario, they develop into nothing more than trade assets.  Conversely, best case scenario, one or two of the aforementioned players pan out.  Both Hibbert and George represent positions of need for Boston.  Plus, the deal would work salary wise.  In my opinion, you don't need to include a first round pick unless Indiana isn't content with solely receiving Rondo back.  Why they've an interest in him when they'd just acquired Darren Collison last year is beyond me.  Indiana has George Hill, AJ Price and Lance Stephenson as well.  Speaking of Hill, wasn't Ainge said to be interested in Hill during the 2009 draft.

Personally, I've no interest in Danny Granger's contract.  But, if I'd a choice, I concur, I would take back Collison too.

The only problem I see with acquiring Hibbert and George for Rondo is that this would signify that Jeff Green won't receive an extension from Boston.  Also, this is the last year of Hibbert's contract.  What will be his asking price? Remember Ainge didn't want to extend Perkins for fear of an unreasonable deal.

Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2011, 01:52:14 AM »

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Just a reminder that Indiana's young center with all the upside is going to be a free agent next off-season when we'll have tons of dough to spend.

Hey, if Big Dwight slips through our hands, we could go after Hibbert, and we wouldn't even have to trade away Rondo to get him.
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2011, 02:08:12 AM »

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Just a reminder that Indiana's young center with all the upside is going to be a free agent next off-season when we'll have tons of dough to spend.

Hey, if Big Dwight slips through our hands, we could go after Hibbert, and we wouldn't even have to trade away Rondo to get him.

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Re: Pacers interested in Rondo...what would we want?
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2011, 02:27:57 AM »

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Just a reminder that Indiana's young center with all the upside is going to be a free agent next off-season when we'll have tons of dough to spend.

Hey, if Big Dwight slips through our hands, we could go after Hibbert, and we wouldn't even have to trade away Rondo to get him.

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O.K., The Pacers got a qualifying offer listed at $3.7 million for him.  I'm pretty sure we could top that if we wanted him. 

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