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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2012, 05:15:57 PM »

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Also how many of those BCS wins came from schools currently in the big east?  Isnt that the fact worth of discussion?

If you draw the line at 2004 or 2005 when Miami, Virginia Tech & later BC all left for the ACC (where you really should); only West Virginia (multiple) & Louisville have won BCS bowls as the Big East champ.

West Virgnia- now in the Big 12

Louisville - soon to be ACC

Cincinnati & UConn got waxed in their BCS bowls as Big East champs.
All true, but it still doesn't change the fact that the ACC champion always gets waxed as well with just two wins EVER.  Pretty darn sad that the ACC constantly takes the Big East's teams and then those teams get worse while new teams arise in the Big East to out perform the ACC.  The two conference may end up playing again in the Orange Bowl this year.  I think it would be hilarious if Rutgers or Louisville ends up beating Florida State or Georgia Tech yet again.
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2012, 05:47:32 PM »

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Also how many of those BCS wins came from schools currently in the big east?  Isnt that the fact worth of discussion?

If you draw the line at 2004 or 2005 when Miami, Virginia Tech & later BC all left for the ACC (where you really should); only West Virginia (multiple) & Louisville have won BCS bowls as the Big East champ.

West Virgnia- now in the Big 12

Louisville - soon to be ACC

Cincinnati & UConn got waxed in their BCS bowls as Big East champs.
All true, but it still doesn't change the fact that the ACC champion always gets waxed as well with just two wins EVER.  Pretty darn sad that the ACC constantly takes the Big East's teams and then those teams get worse while new teams arise in the Big East to out perform the ACC.  The two conference may end up playing again in the Orange Bowl this year.  I think it would be hilarious if Rutgers or Louisville ends up beating Florida State or Georgia Tech yet again.

Kinda sad that all the teams that have succeeded in the big east have left for greener pastures do to terrible competition and management.  A real tragedy
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2012, 05:50:09 PM »

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Also how many of those BCS wins came from schools currently in the big east?  Isnt that the fact worth of discussion?

If you draw the line at 2004 or 2005 when Miami, Virginia Tech & later BC all left for the ACC (where you really should); only West Virginia (multiple) & Louisville have won BCS bowls as the Big East champ.

West Virgnia- now in the Big 12

Louisville - soon to be ACC

Cincinnati & UConn got waxed in their BCS bowls as Big East champs.
All true, but it still doesn't change the fact that the ACC champion always gets waxed as well with just two wins EVER.  Pretty darn sad that the ACC constantly takes the Big East's teams and then those teams get worse while new teams arise in the Big East to out perform the ACC.  The two conference may end up playing again in the Orange Bowl this year.  I think it would be hilarious if Rutgers or Louisville ends up beating Florida State or Georgia Tech yet again.


Let's face it, all these conferences have pretty much been fodder to the $EC in the BCS era.  People can attack the ACC or Big East incessantly but you can easily go after the Big Ten or Big 12 also.

The records of the other major conferences in BCS games & BCS national title games isn't exactly glorious.  Heck, the Big East, ACC, and Big Ten all have the same number of national titles in that span (1).  Not good. 


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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #108 on: November 28, 2012, 07:00:39 PM »

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Isn't everyone forgeting Notre Dame to the ACC for basketball?
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #109 on: November 28, 2012, 09:16:33 PM »

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Also how many of those BCS wins came from schools currently in the big east?  Isnt that the fact worth of discussion?

If you draw the line at 2004 or 2005 when Miami, Virginia Tech & later BC all left for the ACC (where you really should); only West Virginia (multiple) & Louisville have won BCS bowls as the Big East champ.

West Virgnia- now in the Big 12

Louisville - soon to be ACC

Cincinnati & UConn got waxed in their BCS bowls as Big East champs.
All true, but it still doesn't change the fact that the ACC champion always gets waxed as well with just two wins EVER.  Pretty darn sad that the ACC constantly takes the Big East's teams and then those teams get worse while new teams arise in the Big East to out perform the ACC.  The two conference may end up playing again in the Orange Bowl this year.  I think it would be hilarious if Rutgers or Louisville ends up beating Florida State or Georgia Tech yet again.


Let's face it, all these conferences have pretty much been fodder to the $EC in the BCS era.  People can attack the ACC or Big East incessantly but you can easily go after the Big Ten or Big 12 also.

The records of the other major conferences in BCS games & BCS national title games isn't exactly glorious.  Heck, the Big East, ACC, and Big Ten all have the same number of national titles in that span (1).  Not good.
Conference Records in BCS games (by percentage)

Mountain West 3-1
Southeastern 16-7
Western Athletic 2-1
Pac 12 11-7
Big East 7-7
Big Ten 12-13
Big 12 8-11
ACC 3-13 (sorry I forget FSU's win in the first year)
Notre Dame 0-3

Obviously the SEC is the best of the major conferences, but it is clear the ACC is the worst and it isn't close.
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2013, 11:51:29 AM »

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Big Ten finally scrapping the nonsensical Leaders and Legends divisional names and once Rutgers and Maryland join will just go with the aptly named East and West with a straight geographical tilt.  Purdue will be in the West and Indiana will be in the East and that will be the only protected game (i.e. play every year) among the divisions.  The Big Ten is also going to a 9 game conference schedule, but that likely won't go into effect until 2016, though the divisions will go into effect for the 2014 season (when Rutgers and Maryland join).

So the Divisions are

EAST
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland

WEST
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue

Slightly unbalanced towards the East, but a lot of the unbalance will be diminished at least for a few years while Penn State is still under heavy sanctions.  It also means that OSU and UM will only be playing once a year, whereas they in theory could play twice next year (and in back to back weeks no less).
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2013, 02:19:00 PM »

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Also how many of those BCS wins came from schools currently in the big east?  Isnt that the fact worth of discussion?

If you draw the line at 2004 or 2005 when Miami, Virginia Tech & later BC all left for the ACC (where you really should); only West Virginia (multiple) & Louisville have won BCS bowls as the Big East champ.

West Virgnia- now in the Big 12

Louisville - soon to be ACC

Cincinnati & UConn got waxed in their BCS bowls as Big East champs.
All true, but it still doesn't change the fact that the ACC champion always gets waxed as well with just two wins EVER.  Pretty darn sad that the ACC constantly takes the Big East's teams and then those teams get worse while new teams arise in the Big East to out perform the ACC.  The two conference may end up playing again in the Orange Bowl this year.  I think it would be hilarious if Rutgers or Louisville ends up beating Florida State or Georgia Tech yet again.


Let's face it, all these conferences have pretty much been fodder to the $EC in the BCS era.  People can attack the ACC or Big East incessantly but you can easily go after the Big Ten or Big 12 also.

The records of the other major conferences in BCS games & BCS national title games isn't exactly glorious.  Heck, the Big East, ACC, and Big Ten all have the same number of national titles in that span (1).  Not good.
Conference Records in BCS games (by percentage)

Mountain West 3-1
Southeastern 16-7
Western Athletic 2-1
Pac 12 11-7
Big East 7-7
Big Ten 12-13
Big 12 8-11
ACC 3-13 (sorry I forget FSU's win in the first year)
Notre Dame 0-3

Obviously the SEC is the best of the major conferences, but it is clear the ACC is the worst and it isn't close.
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Re: College Conference Alignment
« Reply #112 on: June 03, 2013, 03:46:25 PM »

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