Bulls with Rose + role players > Celtics with Rondo + 4 hall of famers + deepest bench in the league.
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Boozer/Noah are role players?
Noah is definately a role player.
I second that
I guess I'd ask how do you guys define a role player?
He's certainly not a great offensive player or threat, but he's no longer a clear liability on that end. He is also a high level rebounder and defender. That takes him out of the "role player" category in my eyes.
His game is rebounding and put-back dunks/layups.
Perkins/Chandler/Varejao are perfect comparisons for Noah. Both have no offensive game and only uses are rebounds/defense/put-backs.
Thats a role player, they have one role, and they play that role to the max.
Noahs stats are greatly inflated by who he plays with you have to remember that.
Being a role-player isnt a bad thing. But Noah is a role-player, not a star.
So its about his offense. I guess we'll just have to say I disagree. Scoring off of post ups and jump shots is important, but it isn't what defines a "star" and a "role-player".
The best shot in the game is a dunk after all.
If Noah isnt role-player then what is he?
If Noah is a star player, then Perkins, Chandler, and Varejao are also star players, because they are exactly the same as each other. No offensive talent, but rebound and dunk/put-back layups well.
He isnt a star player, he is a very high level role-player and whos stats are inflated by who he plays with.
When Noah went out for 2 and half months, the Bulls kept winning, they simply slid Kurt Thomas into his spot, and Kurt did the same exact things Noah did albiet at a lower rate. But the Bulls kept winning.
Our Big 4 are star players, if any of those 4 went down for 2 and a half months, this team would be in shambles and would be struggling even be the 4th seed in the east because star players cannot have their roles replaced.
Bulls would still have the same record if Perkins/Chandler/Varejao took Noahs spot. Role-players are way easier to replace then stars.
Would that make Rondo a role player too? Isn't everyone a role player then?
When I think "Role Player" I think of guys who don't start or guys who shouldn't start.
Varajao and Noah are excellent defenders. Varajao was almost an All Star last year, was the second best player on a 67 win team.
Noah was averaging a double double before he got hurt.
Reggie Evans is a role player. Steve Kerr was a role player. It's usually guys who are good at one skill and terrible at everything else.
Stats dont make someone a star. Rondo has no offense, but he has built his star reputation by preforming big in the playoffs, putting up historical triple doubles, etc. People that arent basketball fans, know who he is.
Noah has done none of that, he is the #4th option on a team with only 1 all-star.
Role players are incomplete players who lack the talent to be stars, the focal point of teams, guys like Perkins, Chandler, Varejao, and Noah.
They are big bruisers, who defend and rebound, but outside of that dont do much else.
They are good players, but they arent stars, Star players also have the reputation/accomplishment factor, and are household names.
Star players make big plays.
Could you give Noah the ball with 5 seconds left and expect him to make an offensive move to the basket? No, you couldnt, because he has no moves.
He is a high energy, defender/rebounder. You need offense to be considered a star.
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