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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #165 on: April 23, 2013, 01:18:51 AM »

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Anybody watch episode 4?

Amazing. Utterly Amazing.


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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2013, 01:49:59 AM »

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Anybody watch episode 4?

Amazing. Utterly Amazing.


Dany would look good in a Celtics jersey.
Yup it was awesome.  Totally predictable, but awesome.  It would have been less predictable had we not already seen how she handled the Warlock guy last season. Still... it was everything you could have wanted from that scene :)


Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2013, 09:28:26 AM »

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Anybody watch episode 4?

Amazing. Utterly Amazing.


Dany would look good in a Celtics jersey.
Yup it was awesome.  Totally predictable, but awesome.  It would have been less predictable had we not already seen how she handled the Warlock guy last season. Still... it was everything you could have wanted from that scene :)
It is also almost exactly as it transpired in the book, but even still I thought it was a very powerful scene.  The unsullied with the banging of their staffs was awesome.  You could just feel the energy.
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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2013, 09:29:14 PM »

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Anybody watch episode 4?

Amazing. Utterly Amazing.


Dany would look good in a Celtics jersey.
Yup it was awesome.  Totally predictable, but awesome.  It would have been less predictable had we not already seen how she handled the Warlock guy last season. Still... it was everything you could have wanted from that scene :)
It is also almost exactly as it transpired in the book, but even still I thought it was a very powerful scene.  The unsullied with the banging of their staffs was awesome.  You could just feel the energy.

Yup. I was giggling and cheering Dany on like it was a Celtics game! That very last scene where they're marching w/ the dragons flying was very well done.
I like Marcus Smart

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #169 on: May 20, 2013, 11:45:36 AM »

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Building up to the season's climax.  I think it might be the next episode with 1 after to close the season out.

Also, the Sansa/Tryion wedding last night was so well acted, just totally amazing.  You just really feel for Sansa.  She is so good and really matched the Imp in the scene (which is hard to do).
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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #170 on: May 20, 2013, 11:48:14 AM »

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Game Of Thrones is the heart-breaking overtime loss by the underdog of books/TV shows.

Everytime you start to root for a character/think the over-arching plot is actually going somewhere, they die/it doesn't.

I'm actually a little bitter that GoT is so critically acclaimed and widely watched. Screw George RR Martin and his 'homeless Santa' beard.

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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #171 on: May 20, 2013, 11:59:46 AM »

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Am I the only one here who wants to beat the heck out of Joffrey?

I'm glad Tyrion embarrassed "the King" in front of everyone in the little brat couldn't do nothing.
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« Reply #172 on: May 20, 2013, 12:09:46 PM »

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Am I the only one here who wants to beat the heck out of Joffrey?

I'm glad Tyrion embarrassed "the King" in front of everyone in the little brat couldn't do nothing.

You should watch this:

http://www.cracked.com/video_18578_why-being-writer-game-thrones-must-suck.html

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« Reply #173 on: May 20, 2013, 12:31:03 PM »

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Am I the only one here who wants to beat the heck out of Joffrey?

The question is: would you like for him to share the fate of Theon Greyjoy?
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« Reply #174 on: May 20, 2013, 12:37:53 PM »

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Game Of Thrones is the heart-breaking overtime loss by the underdog of books/TV shows.

Everytime you start to root for a character/think the over-arching plot is actually going somewhere, they die/it doesn't.

I'm actually a little bitter that GoT is so critically acclaimed and widely watched. Screw George RR Martin and his 'homeless Santa' beard.

I haven't read the books but my understanding is the big metatheme is deconstructing the common tropes of fantasy writing.  Hence all the badasses laid low in the most mundane ways, buildups to epic confrontations that fall apart or take an unexpected turn, and "good guys" who really are just a different shade of gray than the "villains". 

For what it is, I like it a lot.  The characters feel more like humans than one-note archetypes, and it's very hard to tell what's going to happen next, except for a few telegraphed events like Danaerys torching the slavers and the major characters I think are going to die very soon (not a book reader, but the signs are so clear to me that I don't want to name names).

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« Reply #175 on: May 20, 2013, 12:46:22 PM »

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Am I the only one here who wants to beat the heck out of Joffrey?

The question is: would you like for him to share the fate of Theon Greyjoy?

ABSOLUTELY! It should be in front of every person in Kings Landing too. He started a war, killed the butcher's killed (or have him killed), treated Sansa like some dirt, not to mention having her watch her dad get beheaded and look at his head on a spike after. Outside of everything else, and he's not even Baratheon blood. He's no king.

I would pay to see that.

On a side note, that kid Jack Gleeson, heck of an actor.
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« Reply #176 on: May 20, 2013, 12:51:29 PM »

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Game Of Thrones is the heart-breaking overtime loss by the underdog of books/TV shows.

Everytime you start to root for a character/think the over-arching plot is actually going somewhere, they die/it doesn't.

I'm actually a little bitter that GoT is so critically acclaimed and widely watched. Screw George RR Martin and his 'homeless Santa' beard.

I haven't read the books but my understanding is the big metatheme is deconstructing the common tropes of fantasy writing.  Hence all the badasses laid low in the most mundane ways, buildups to epic confrontations that fall apart or take an unexpected turn, and "good guys" who really are just a different shade of gray than the "villains". 

For what it is, I like it a lot.  The characters feel more like humans than one-note archetypes, and it's very hard to tell what's going to happen next, except for a few telegraphed events like Danaerys torching the slavers and the major characters I think are going to die very soon (not a book reader, but the signs are so clear to me that I don't want to name names).
The books are excellent.  You really should read them.  And I'd be curious who you think is going to die soon.  Private message who you think it is.  I won't tell you if you are right or not, I'm just curious.
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« Reply #177 on: May 20, 2013, 12:59:38 PM »

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The question is: would you like for him to share the fate of Theon Greyjoy?

i`d like to see George R. R. Martin sharing the same fate... (kidding)

I want the 6th book NOW !

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #178 on: May 20, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »

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Game Of Thrones is the heart-breaking overtime loss by the underdog of books/TV shows.

Everytime you start to root for a character/think the over-arching plot is actually going somewhere, they die/it doesn't.

I'm actually a little bitter that GoT is so critically acclaimed and widely watched. Screw George RR Martin and his 'homeless Santa' beard.

I haven't read the books but my understanding is the big metatheme is deconstructing the common tropes of fantasy writing.  Hence all the badasses laid low in the most mundane ways, buildups to epic confrontations that fall apart or take an unexpected turn, and "good guys" who really are just a different shade of gray than the "villains". 

For what it is, I like it a lot.  The characters feel more like humans than one-note archetypes, and it's very hard to tell what's going to happen next, except for a few telegraphed events like Danaerys torching the slavers and the major characters I think are going to die very soon (not a book reader, but the signs are so clear to me that I don't want to name names).

The thing about GoT (or more aptly A Song Of Ice and Fire, the books..the TV show has Peter Dinklage and I can't get mad at him) is that the whole idea of the 'meta deconstruction' by killing off major characters spontaneously, or having large moments occur spontaneously (the death of ___ ____ at the end of the most recent book is a great example of this, or the death of ____ _________ by his ___ while he escapes after _____ _______) or the moral apathy of _____ _________'s actions the closer he gets to his eventual goal are great examples of flying in the face of traditional fantasy. It's absolutely a valid observation of the works.

But, because of that pattern, there is no central story. You start out the very first book with the white walkers. You start out the second book with the white walkers. White walkers happen sporadically throughout the rest of the books. Guess what we know about the white walkers after 4300 pages or, in my case, over 200 hours of audiobooks? Nothing! We know nothing, Jon Snow!

But meanwhile, all this other crap is going on that ultimately amounts to nothing more than B-stories when there isn't an A-story. And that's not all bad, it happens in a lot of series. Robert Jordan's life's work the Wheel Of Time series has that stuff happen fairly frequently.

But the nagging feeling you'll get if you read the books and, like me, tend to critique what you're reading as often as you enjoy reading it, all the 'meta' garbage is really just a facade to get you to read an elongated novelization of All My Children, with dragons and swords, and gratuitous sex scenes. Its guy-soaps (which is unfair to the women who also love these books..its fantasy-nerd-soaps)

It would be like if you were to write a series of books, with a strong male protagonist and multiple strong female protagonists. None of them are your barbie-doll types, they're intelligent, self-aware, and they all happen to be maddeningly in love with the male protagonist. Also, there is magic and blood and sex and stuff.

And people would say, 'wow! look at how deftly he shrugged the 'guy meets girl' paradigm, look how he defies the barbie doll female archtype!'

But you know its just a glorified harem.


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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #179 on: May 20, 2013, 01:21:02 PM »

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The books just fall apart after the third novel, no longer enjoyable to read anymore. Much better for me to just read the wiki on what's happening because the words on the page become a massive chore even for me as an avid reader.

Quantity of words and characters goes up, quality of writing goes to nothing.