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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #405 on: June 06, 2009, 09:19:57 PM »

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It should have been addressed. I can't offer much more than an apology, and an encouragement to report this stuff if/when you see it, so it can be addressed.

I wouldn't advise anyone to do this. That's what I did, by pointing out to a moderator a post that, in my opinion, was being overlooked and the consequence was that I was banned for suggesting the moderators were being biased.

We can discuss the details in private, because we have a policy about discussing these things in the public forum, but I will say that this is 100% incorrect.  

I think there's something I don't understand in this post and I'll look for the rule. I'm not sure what you mean by "these things" and it seems a mixed message when combined with Roy saying he'd welcome a discussion in this thread

By "these things", I am referring to specific disciplinary actions taken by the staff, concerning individual posters.  We do not discuss them in the public forum.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #406 on: June 06, 2009, 09:20:28 PM »

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As I said, you're being intentionally difficult, and are twisting the words and actions of the staff.  Indeed, you're lying about things that were said / done in the past, for the sole purpose of giving the staff a hard time / making us look bad.  There's no doubt in my mind that you know the distinction between criticizing another poster and criticizing a politician, and your continued effort to cast the staff as hypocrites is a shallow effort to challenge our authority.

You are to cease and desist with this line of debate.  If you want to have a legitimate discussion about the rules -- which would require you to stop posturing and behave honestly -- I invite you to do so via PM.  However, please take note that continued lies and misdirection directed towards the staff in this thread will result in discipline against your account.  Move on.


Why are you concerned about "looking bad"? I think the only thing that "looks bad" is this post.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #407 on: June 06, 2009, 09:21:48 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


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edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #408 on: June 06, 2009, 09:23:24 PM »

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It should have been addressed. I can't offer much more than an apology, and an encouragement to report this stuff if/when you see it, so it can be addressed.

I wouldn't advise anyone to do this. That's what I did, by pointing out to a moderator a post that, in my opinion, was being overlooked and the consequence was that I was banned for suggesting the moderators were being biased.

We can discuss the details in private, because we have a policy about discussing these things in the public forum, but I will say that this is 100% incorrect.  

I think there's something I don't understand in this post and I'll look for the rule. I'm not sure what you mean by "these things" and it seems a mixed message when combined with Roy saying he'd welcome a discussion in this thread

By "these things", I am referring to specific disciplinary actions taken by the staff, concerning individual posters.  We do not discuss them in the public forum.

Oh Ok. Thanks. I would have thought the purpose was to protect the privacy of the guy getting spoken to, so that if he asks publicly then you can tell him publicly, but maybe that's not the reason

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #409 on: June 06, 2009, 09:34:38 PM »

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moderating this board is a hard, thankless, time consuming job

much like referees, it is subjective and the ones that get warned or punished will probably be upset, even if they know they are wrong

Still, I think the staff does a heck of a lot better job than NBA refs, though I ask everyone to remember that mods are allowed to make mistakes.  To lessen the mistakes, they do a great job of checks and balances as well - we always try to discuss the more difficult issues amongst ourselves before taking action.

I'm very proud of what the staff here does and they have my full support.  They are responsible for creating the relatively peaceful, friendly environment (there will always be exceptions) that we all enjoy here.

please support the mods by working with them (cooperating respectfully, using the report button, etc.) as opposed to against them (for example by engaging in flame wars) as much as possible - thanks
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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #410 on: June 06, 2009, 09:38:15 PM »

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i will make this str8 to the point....

1. the blog has rules, if you cant follow them or dont like them, maybe this isnt the place for you.

2. be respectful of others.

3.  LIGHTEN UP!!!! its only a message board.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #411 on: June 06, 2009, 09:54:10 PM »

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Really my first experience as a moderator with an all on, full blown, assault on the way we (moderators) do things.  It sorta sucks that people are disgruntled with the way we do things.  I feel like we all put in a pretty honest effort at keeping things square back here. 

Mods have feelings to you know    :'( :'( :'( :'(

Seriously though, I'm not crying in my pillow over anything that happens in this forum, but the peacefulness of this place is a genuine concern for me, and I know for [dang] sure my fellow moderators. For a pretty large community, this is a great place, that we all value, but when the values that make this place are attacked, they need to be upheld.

Not always an easy thing to do.  But that's the deal.
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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #412 on: June 06, 2009, 09:57:31 PM »

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Really my first experience as a moderator with an all on, full blown, assault on the way we (moderators) do things.  It sorta sucks that people are disgruntled with the way we do things.  I feel like we all put in a pretty honest effort at keeping things square back here. 

Mods have feelings to you know    :'( :'( :'( :'(

Seriously though, I'm not crying in my pillow over anything that happens in this forum, but the peacefulness of this place is a genuine concern for me, and I know for [dang] sure my fellow moderators. For a pretty large community, this is a great place, that we all value, but when the values that make this place are attacked, they need to be upheld.

Not always an easy thing to do.  But that's the deal.
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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #413 on: June 06, 2009, 10:44:55 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


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edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

EJA, I sincerely don't think the mods follow their own rules, but I do think that the gray area fluctuates immensely.  I also think there's been times that it's fluctuated in my favor and times that it hasn't.  So be it.

Jeff owns (perhaps with others) the playground.  The mods run the playground and they are in charge of the equipment.  They give us a list of rules -- whether or not we want to play on the playground is our choice.  Even if we think the rules fluctuate, its our choice to stay and play or go elsewhere.  The uncool thing to do is to stay and fight....there's enough other playgrounds that we can go to instead of doing that.

Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is and I've elected to play.....

sometimes you have to bite your lip, exhale and move on.  So, I have.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #414 on: June 06, 2009, 10:47:25 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


=====
edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

EJA, I sincerely don't think the mods follow their own rules, but I do think that the gray area fluctuates immensely.  I also think there's been times that it's fluctuated in my favor and times that it hasn't.  So be it.

Jeff owns (perhaps with others) the playground.  The mods run the playground and they are in charge of the equipment.  They give us a list of rules -- whether or not we want to play on the playground is our choice.  Even if we think the rules fluctuate, its our choice to stay and play or go elsewhere.  The uncool thing to do is to stay and fight....there's enough other playgrounds that we can go to instead of doing that.

Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is and I've elected to play.....


Well....as long as this playground has monkeybars. I gotta have me my monkeybars when I'm at the playground.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #415 on: June 06, 2009, 10:54:50 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


=====
edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

EJA, I sincerely don't think the mods follow their own rules, but I do think that the gray area fluctuates immensely.  I also think there's been times that it's fluctuated in my favor and times that it hasn't.  So be it.

Jeff owns (perhaps with others) the playground.  The mods run the playground and they are in charge of the equipment.  They give us a list of rules -- whether or not we want to play on the playground is our choice.  Even if we think the rules fluctuate, its our choice to stay and play or go elsewhere.  The uncool thing to do is to stay and fight....there's enough other playgrounds that we can go to instead of doing that.

Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is and I've elected to play.....


Well....as long as this playground has monkeybars. I gotta have me my monkeybars when I'm at the playground.

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sometimes you have to bite your lip, exhale and move on.  So, I have.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #416 on: June 06, 2009, 10:59:22 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


=====
edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

EJA, I sincerely don't think the mods follow their own rules, but I do think that the gray area fluctuates immensely.  I also think there's been times that it's fluctuated in my favor and times that it hasn't.  So be it.

Jeff owns (perhaps with others) the playground.  The mods run the playground and they are in charge of the equipment.  They give us a list of rules -- whether or not we want to play on the playground is our choice.  Even if we think the rules fluctuate, its our choice to stay and play or go elsewhere.  The uncool thing to do is to stay and fight....there's enough other playgrounds that we can go to instead of doing that.

Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is and I've elected to play.....


Well....as long as this playground has monkeybars. I gotta have me my monkeybars when I'm at the playground.

Monkey bars are highly overrated Nick.  All I ever needed was a ball and a bunch of kids running after me in a game of "kill the guy with the ball".  I was unstoppable at kill the guy with the ball.
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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #417 on: June 06, 2009, 11:04:44 PM »

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Cordobes,

Listen......

I have an issue with the way the Mods handled one of my posts -- it really irked me to no end and I signed off for more than a month.

Celticsblog is not run by me and I don't make the rules, if I want to participate in this community I know that I have to follow their rules....as gray as I may think they are.  I have elected to participate for I think that it's better than the alternative.

Step back and make the same choice I did.  Leave for awhile and evaluate what you want to do.  Do you want to partake under the structure as you know it or do you not want to?  It's simple. You didn't put the sweat equity into the site and neither did I.  You don't put the long hours into the site and neither do I.  

I chose to partake and not b*tch.  What's your choice?  


=====
edit:  the page of posts following this seem to have disappeared....odd.

I don't think the issue in a sense was following or respecting the rules, but that mods follow their own.

EJA, I sincerely don't think the mods follow their own rules, but I do think that the gray area fluctuates immensely.  I also think there's been times that it's fluctuated in my favor and times that it hasn't.  So be it.

Jeff owns (perhaps with others) the playground.  The mods run the playground and they are in charge of the equipment.  They give us a list of rules -- whether or not we want to play on the playground is our choice.  Even if we think the rules fluctuate, its our choice to stay and play or go elsewhere.  The uncool thing to do is to stay and fight....there's enough other playgrounds that we can go to instead of doing that.

Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is and I've elected to play.....


Well....as long as this playground has monkeybars. I gotta have me my monkeybars when I'm at the playground.

Monkey bars are highly overrated Nick.  All I ever needed was a ball and a bunch of kids running after me in a game of "kill the guy with the ball".  I was unstoppable at kill the guy with the ball.


I always liked the see-saw.  Only took out one other kid with that.  (that's what you get for playing with the little brother of a player on the other softball team)

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #418 on: June 06, 2009, 11:16:31 PM »

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I thought moderators were hall monitors.  This playground stuff has me all confused.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #419 on: June 07, 2009, 10:17:23 AM »

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I seem to have missed a lot of what's been going on here, but:

i will make this str8 to the point....

1. the blog has rules, if you cant follow them or dont like them, maybe this isnt the place for you.

2. be respectful of others.

3.  LIGHTEN UP!!!! its only a message board.

What he said.