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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #330 on: May 14, 2009, 03:29:14 PM »

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I wonder if we can promote a new rule that forbide acces to clowns and pickles?

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You've got to leave me something

I say we ban angry pickles and allow sweet pickles.

they all start out sweet IP, why not just cut to the chase and keep the angry pickle?
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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #331 on: May 14, 2009, 03:30:14 PM »

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I wonder if we can promote a new rule that forbide acces to clowns and pickles?

 :P

You've got to leave me something

I guess I didnt make my point clear

I wonder if we can promote a new rule that forbide acces to clowns and pickles?

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #332 on: May 14, 2009, 03:43:25 PM »

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I wonder if we can promote a new rule that forbide acces to clowns and pickles?

 :P

You've got to leave me something

I guess I didnt make my point clear

I wonder if we can promote a new rule that forbide acces to clowns and pickles?

 ;D



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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #333 on: June 06, 2009, 01:59:11 PM »

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Hey, why was a thread about the NBA age limit move to the current events?! That's nonsensical. I was writing a (very) long post about the issue with some thoughts I have about the NBA and the developmental basketball system worldwide that I lost because of that. Awful decision that cost me about 45 minutes of my time.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #334 on: June 06, 2009, 02:04:45 PM »

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Hey, why was a thread about the NBA age limit move to the current events?! That's nonsensical. I was writing a (very) long post about the issue with some thoughts I have about the NBA and the developmental basketball system worldwide that I lost because of that. Awful decision that cost me about 45 minutes of my time.

The decision is under discussion currently.  The conversation was veering off-course, due to certain posters deciding to make it into a political discussion.  If posters don't want to see threads end up in the Current Events forum, they should stay on track and avoid discussion of politics in the basketball forums.

I'm sorry you lost your post.  I wasn't the one who moved the thread, but I support the decision, due to where the thread was going. 

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #335 on: June 06, 2009, 02:10:40 PM »

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Hey, why was a thread about the NBA age limit move to the current events?! That's nonsensical. I was writing a (very) long post about the issue with some thoughts I have about the NBA and the developmental basketball system worldwide that I lost because of that. Awful decision that cost me about 45 minutes of my time.

The decision is under discussion currently.  The conversation was veering off-course, due to certain posters deciding to make it into a political discussion.  If posters don't want to see threads end up in the Current Events forum, they should stay on track and avoid discussion of politics in the basketball forums.

I'm sorry you lost your post.  I wasn't the one who moved the thread, but I support the decision, due to where the thread was going. 

Geez, my post was merely an easy joke; but in cases like this, just make an off-topic warning or, if needed, delete those posts. The idea that a basketball discussion goes to the current events board because of a couple of posts have some political references is absolutely nuts.

p.s. - I've read IP answer to me. I was making a joke; but I stand by me statements anyway (and if you really want to, I can easily prove that - be cautious with what you ask though).

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #336 on: June 06, 2009, 02:24:23 PM »

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p.s. - I've read IP answer to me. I was making a joke; but I stand by me statements anyway (and if you really want to, I can easily prove that - be cautious with what you ask though).

Regarding whether there's a liberal bias on our staff, it's true that most of the people restricted from the Current Events forum (which is less than a half-dozen people) are conservative.  However, I think that's more coincidental than anything else.  I don't think anybody, for instance, would accuse me of a liberal bias, and I've agreed with each of the restrictions put on members.

However, if you feel that we've been unduly harsh on conservatives, or unfairly lenient towards liberals, it's actually a discussion I welcome. 

(As for your own restriction, as has been noted, the staff is willing to give almost anybody a second shot at the forum, depending upon the severity of their offense).  As I recall, you didn't want to have your access rights restored, but the staff is willing to revisit that decision if you'd like.)

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #337 on: June 06, 2009, 02:34:16 PM »

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Having lost many long posts before, I now almost always "ctrl c" before pressing post. That way if I get logged out or something, I can just log in and then paste my post. Just a suggestion to others that get frustrated with lost posts.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #338 on: June 06, 2009, 02:36:15 PM »

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p.s. - I've read IP answer to me. I was making a joke; but I stand by me statements anyway (and if you really want to, I can easily prove that - be cautious with what you ask though).

Regarding whether there's a liberal bias on our staff, it's true that most of the people restricted from the Current Events forum (which is less than a half-dozen people) are conservative.  However, I think that's more coincidental than anything else.  I don't think anybody, for instance, would accuse me of a liberal bias, and I've agreed with each of the restrictions put on members.

However, if you feel that we've been unduly harsh on conservatives, or unfairly lenient towards liberals, it's actually a discussion I welcome. 

(As for your own restriction, as has been noted, the staff is willing to give almost anybody a second shot at the forum, depending upon the severity of their offense).  As I recall, you didn't want to have your access rights restored, but the staff is willing to revisit that decision if you'd like.)

I never thought of a liberal bias. i just thought the posting rules were very broad, subjective, and inconsistently applied.

I got told to tune down hyperbole a few days ago for writing humor. I don't think if one of the mods here had written the same thing anybody would have said anything.

Mods have also been known recently to say that threads could be locked because a thread is close to being disrespectful. I have always been a close is good for only handgrenades kind of guy so if a mod says it's being close to disrespectful then it isn't disrespectful. In the mean time another longtime poster had already posted a post saying thanks for everyone being so respectful that about 5 people had agreed with.

You were the one who hit the nail on the head on that one saying that it was a thread subject nearly impossible for some people to not find somee legitmate offense to, similar to some other expressly forbidden topics like abortion. Yet it was a mod who first reponded to that whole thread.

In the mean time you put up a post asking people what they should do about it. Then took it down after one post. So first you were interested in our opinions then not so interested.

So in terms of rules it is easy for one to often feel as though they are walking on egg shells, except some egg shells you can walk on and some you can't.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #339 on: June 06, 2009, 02:38:45 PM »

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p.s. - I've read IP answer to me. I was making a joke; but I stand by me statements anyway (and if you really want to, I can easily prove that - be cautious with what you ask though).

Regarding whether there's a liberal bias on our staff, it's true that most of the people restricted from the Current Events forum (which is less than a half-dozen people) are conservative.  However, I think that's more coincidental than anything else.  I don't think anybody, for instance, would accuse me of a liberal bias, and I've agreed with each of the restrictions put on members.

However, if you feel that we've been unduly harsh on conservatives, or unfairly lenient towards liberals, it's actually a discussion I welcome. 

(As for your own restriction, as has been noted, the staff is willing to give almost anybody a second shot at the forum, depending upon the severity of their offense).  As I recall, you didn't want to have your access rights restored, but the staff is willing to revisit that decision if you'd like.)

Oh no, it's not about my access rights; I just wanted to make the joke.

And of course there's a double-standard. I mean, just an example, I can point examples of liberals making offensive personal remarks, like calling individuals "dumb" and "clown", which is an explicit violation of the rules, without even being warned; while if someone writes something like "Hello socialism, goodbye freedom" or "These ideas are laughable" (being a conservative) that poster is banned. These are just examples, there are even worse and more evident cases.

I wasn't even aware this bias was disputed; I thought it was just assumed by everybody.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #340 on: June 06, 2009, 02:46:28 PM »

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p.s. - I've read IP answer to me. I was making a joke; but I stand by me statements anyway (and if you really want to, I can easily prove that - be cautious with what you ask though).

Regarding whether there's a liberal bias on our staff, it's true that most of the people restricted from the Current Events forum (which is less than a half-dozen people) are conservative.  However, I think that's more coincidental than anything else.  I don't think anybody, for instance, would accuse me of a liberal bias, and I've agreed with each of the restrictions put on members.

However, if you feel that we've been unduly harsh on conservatives, or unfairly lenient towards liberals, it's actually a discussion I welcome. 

(As for your own restriction, as has been noted, the staff is willing to give almost anybody a second shot at the forum, depending upon the severity of their offense).  As I recall, you didn't want to have your access rights restored, but the staff is willing to revisit that decision if you'd like.)

Oh no, it's not about my access rights; I just wanted to make the joke.

And of course there's a double-standard. I mean, just an example, I can point examples of liberals making offensive personal remarks, like calling individuals "dumb" and "clown", which is an explicit violation of the rules, without even being warned; while if someone writes something like "Hello socialism, goodbye freedom" or "These ideas are laughable" (being a conservative) that poster is banned. These are just examples, there are even worse and more evident cases.

I wasn't even aware this bias was disputed; I thought it was just assumed by everybody.

Everytime we ban someone from the current events forum, or the entire forum for that matter, there is a discussion. We all have our say. We come to an agreement through discussion, and we make a choice. I do not know how much better we could do it. If you have a problem with something I said, something a mod said, in any thread, just hit the report abuse button. We'll look at it, and we'll give it fair consideration. I do not know what else we could offer.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #341 on: June 06, 2009, 02:47:19 PM »

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I never thought of a liberal bias. i just thought the posting rules were very broad, subjective, and inconsistently applied.

I got told to tune down hyperbole a few days ago for writing humor. I don't think if one of the mods here had written the same thing anybody would have said anything.

As I recall, you admitted rule-breaking behavior, and posted something about the "People's Republic of Cambridge".  I'm not going to apologize for enforcing our rules (one of which is "Do not use disparaging nicknames for public figures or entities".) 

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Mods have also been known recently to say that threads could be locked because a thread is close to being disrespectful. I have always been a close is good for only handgrenades kind of guy so if a mod says it's being close to disrespectful then it isn't disrespectful. In the mean time another longtime poster had already posted a post saying thanks for everyone being so respectful that about 5 people had agreed with.

I'm not sure what instance you're referring to, but the role of moderators is to keep threads on track and to prevent arguments from breaking out.  If things are getting chippy, a mod will usually step in.

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You were the one who hit the nail on the head on that one saying that it was a thread subject nearly impossible for some people to not find somee legitmate offense to, similar to some other expressly forbidden topics like abortion. Yet it was a mod who first reponded to that whole thread.

In the mean time you put up a post asking people what they should do about it. Then took it down after one post. So first you were interested in our opinions then not so interested.

The gay marriage thread was largely respectful, with a handful of inflammatory remarks or comments where people seemed to be posting to push people's buttons.  Despite the extreme viewpoints offered at times, we allowed people to express their views, and did not edit due to content.  Also, of course, our moderators are also posters here, and a lot of times have thoughts they'd like to share and discuss.

As for the thread I posted that you're referring to, that thread was addressed to the other mods; it was temporarily posted in the main forums by mistake. 

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So in terms of rules it is easy for one to often feel as though they are walking on egg shells, except some egg shells you can walk on and some you can't.

Fair enough.  If you've got suggestions on how things could be better, this is the thread to post them in.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #342 on: June 06, 2009, 02:48:45 PM »

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Oh no, it's not about my access rights; I just wanted to make the joke.

And of course there's a double-standard. I mean, just an example, I can point examples of liberals making offensive personal remarks, like calling individuals "dumb" and "clown", which is an explicit violation of the rules, without even being warned; while if someone writes something like "Hello socialism, goodbye freedom" or "These ideas are laughable" (being a conservative) that poster is banned. These are just examples, there are even worse and more evident cases.

I wasn't even aware this bias was disputed; I thought it was just assumed by everybody.

If posters are calling others "dumb" and "clowns", I wish people would use the "report to a moderator" button; comments like that aren't ever appropriate (unless referring to Redz, I suppose.)  I assure you, if moderators miss comments like that, it has nothing to do with a political bias.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #343 on: June 06, 2009, 02:55:36 PM »

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I moved discussion here, since this is the official place to discuss the rules and their application.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #344 on: June 06, 2009, 02:59:10 PM »

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I never thought of a liberal bias. i just thought the posting rules were very broad, subjective, and inconsistently applied.

I got told to tune down hyperbole a few days ago for writing humor. I don't think if one of the mods here had written the same thing anybody would have said anything.

As I recall, you admitted rule-breaking behavior, and posted something about the "People's Republic of Cambridge".  I'm not going to apologize for enforcing our rules (one of which is "Do not use disparaging nicknames for public figures or entities".) 

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Mods have also been known recently to say that threads could be locked because a thread is close to being disrespectful. I have always been a close is good for only handgrenades kind of guy so if a mod says it's being close to disrespectful then it isn't disrespectful. In the mean time another longtime poster had already posted a post saying thanks for everyone being so respectful that about 5 people had agreed with.

I'm not sure what instance you're referring to, but the role of moderators is to keep threads on track and to prevent arguments from breaking out.  If things are getting chippy, a mod will usually step in.

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You were the one who hit the nail on the head on that one saying that it was a thread subject nearly impossible for some people to not find somee legitmate offense to, similar to some other expressly forbidden topics like abortion. Yet it was a mod who first reponded to that whole thread.

In the mean time you put up a post asking people what they should do about it. Then took it down after one post. So first you were interested in our opinions then not so interested.

The gay marriage thread was largely respectful, with a handful of inflammatory remarks or comments where people seemed to be posting to push people's buttons.  Despite the extreme viewpoints offered at times, we allowed people to express their views, and did not edit due to content.  Also, of course, our moderators are also posters here, and a lot of times have thoughts they'd like to share and discuss.

As for the thread I posted that you're referring to, that thread was addressed to the other mods; it was temporarily posted in the main forums by mistake. 

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So in terms of rules it is easy for one to often feel as though they are walking on egg shells, except some egg shells you can walk on and some you can't.

Fair enough.  If you've got suggestions on how things could be better, this is the thread to post them in.

Ok so I admit rule breaking when I do it and others don't. I admit that is true.

Ok. I suggest going to the rules section and deleting any rule intended to protect people from themselves or others as we are all big boys and girls here.