David Kahn really is an idiot (as we all know)! Interview on NBA TV with C-Webb

[nickagneta]

I don't understand the vitriol being throw at Chris Webber here. Kahn tried to say that Darko was young and immature and ill prepared for NBA basketball and intimated that it took Chris Webber time to adjust to NBA basketball as well, going so far as to mention being that way until he reached Sacramento.

Except that Chris Webber's stats compared to those of Darko completely refute what Kahn is talking about:

              Chris Webber     Darko Milicic

1st year  MPG    32.1              4.7
              PPG    17.5              1.4
              RPG     9.1               1.3
              APG     3.6               0.2
              BPG     2.2               0.4
              SPG     1.2               0.2

2nd year  MPG    38.3              6.9
              PPG    20.1              1.8
              RPG     9.6               1.2
              APG     4.7               0.2
              BPG     1.6               0.5
              SPG     1.5               0.1

3rd year  MPG    37.2             13.9
              PPG    23.7              4.8
              RPG     7.6               2.7
              APG     5.0               0.7
              BPG     0.6               1.4
              SPG     1.8               0.3

4th year  MPG    39.0             23.9
              PPG    20.1              8.0
              RPG    10.3               5,5
              APG     4.6               1.1
              BPG     1.9               1.8
              SPG     1.7               0.6

I mean, come on. If you were Chris Webber and had the career he did and started off your career the way you did and then later on if possibly one of the worst GMs in the league over the last 20 years then tried to intimate that you somehow didn't get it or played as poorly as Darko Milicic during the same period, my guess is you would be a little insulted and say some stuff as well.

[Mike-Dub]

I don't understand the vitriol being throw at Chris Webber here. Kahn tried to say that Darko was young and immature and ill prepared for NBA basketball and intimated that it took Chris Webber time to adjust to NBA basketball as well, going so far as to mention being that way until he reached Sacramento.

Except that Chris Webber's stats compared to those of Darko completely refute what Kahn is talking about:

              Chris Webber     Darko Milicic

1st year  MPG    32.1              4.7
              PPG    17.5              1.4
              RPG     9.1               1.3
              APG     3.6               0.2
              BPG     2.2               0.4
              SPG     1.2               0.2

2nd year  MPG    38.3              6.9
              PPG    20.1              1.8
              RPG     9.6               1.2
              APG     4.7               0.2
              BPG     1.6               0.5
              SPG     1.5               0.1

3rd year  MPG    37.2             13.9
              PPG    23.7              4.8
              RPG     7.6               2.7
              APG     5.0               0.7
              BPG     0.6               1.4
              SPG     1.8               0.3

4th year  MPG    39.0             23.9
              PPG    20.1              8.0
              RPG    10.3               5,5
              APG     4.6               1.1
              BPG     1.9               1.8
              SPG     1.7               0.6

I mean, come on. If you were Chris Webber and had the career he did and started off your career the way you did and then later on if possibly one of the worst GMs in the league over the last 20 years then tried to intimate that you somehow didn't get it or played as poorly as Darko Milicic during the same period, my guess is you would be a little insulted and say some stuff as well.

C-Webb should have been insulted but he could have been a professional basketball analyst and polite person and not said anything. 

[nickagneta]

The guy just insulted him. I thought he did well not to be a complete and utter Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. He made a quick retort and had a sarcastic tone. If that was Charles Barley and Kahn tried to compare Darko to him, Barkely would have gone off. Larry Bird would have said worse if he was compared to Darko. Any superstar would. I thought Webber did well to contain himself.

[Mike-Dub]

The guy just insulted him. I thought he did well not to be a complete and utter ****. He made a quick retort and had a sarcastic tone. If that was Charles Barley and Kahn tried to compare Darko to him, Barkely would have gone off. Larry Bird would have said worse if he was compared to Darko. Any superstar would. I thought Webber did well to contain himself.

Just because other people made have said worse things doesn't make what C-Webb said right.  I don't see why he couldn't just say nothing.

[Change]

C-Webb took it easy on him. Kahn crossed the line comparing Darko career to C-Webb. C-Webb was a star from day 1. I like Darko, but never ever put Vlade or C-Webb in same sentence. No matter what Kahn can't justify the insane $$$ he gave Darko.

[Snakehead]

The guy just insulted him. I thought he did well not to be a complete and utter ****. He made a quick retort and had a sarcastic tone. If that was Charles Barley and Kahn tried to compare Darko to him, Barkely would have gone off. Larry Bird would have said worse if he was compared to Darko. Any superstar would. I thought Webber did well to contain himself.

Just because other people made have said worse things doesn't make what C-Webb said right.  I don't see why he couldn't just say nothing.

I don't think you get the mindset man.  These guys are big time competitors. Like Nickagenta says here, guys like Larry Bird would not take kindly to this kind of comparison.  C-Webb worked hard to become a great basketball player, and I'm sure he doesn't want to be compared to a player like Darko.  Sorry but that's how it is and for a competitor he did that about as nicely as he could.  And he was a teammate of Vlade so I'm sure took that pretty insultingly too.

[Mike-Dub]

The guy just insulted him. I thought he did well not to be a complete and utter ****. He made a quick retort and had a sarcastic tone. If that was Charles Barley and Kahn tried to compare Darko to him, Barkely would have gone off. Larry Bird would have said worse if he was compared to Darko. Any superstar would. I thought Webber did well to contain himself.

Just because other people made have said worse things doesn't make what C-Webb said right.  I don't see why he couldn't just say nothing.

I don't think you get the mindset man.  These guys are big time competitors. Like Nickagenta says here, guys like Larry Bird would not take kindly to this kind of comparison.  C-Webb worked hard to become a great basketball player, and I'm sure he doesn't want to be compared to a player like Darko.  Sorry but that's how it is and for a competitor he did that about as nicely as he could.  And he was a teammate of Vlade so I'm sure took that pretty insultingly too.

I know what you're saying but he still could have just let it go.  It definitely could have been a lot worse though. 

[Andy Jick]

I don't play professional basketball, but I wouldn't want to be compared to Darko if we were playing tiddlywinks...

I don't blame C-Webb if he took offense to those comments.  It's kinda like in the Adam Morrison thread here where the basketball card wrapper had him and Bird on the same cover.  If you asked Larry to comment on that what do you think he'd say?

[Moranis]

C-Webb took it easy on him. Kahn crossed the line comparing Darko career to C-Webb. C-Webb was a star from day 1. I like Darko, but never ever put Vlade or C-Webb in same sentence. No matter what Kahn can't justify the insane $$$ he gave Darko.

he didn't compare their careers.

[ReggieLewis#35]

He did kinda compare careers by sayin Chris really wasnt that good till he went to Sacremento,the guy is absolutely clueless,he learned all our plays in 2 days where it takes 2 months for most guys.

[noro]

And this guy just signed ANOTHER PG! Does he know how to read a depth chart?  He stocks up on SFs and PGs at an unbelievable rate.  I can't understand it for the life of me.

That's because he's now potentially interested in dumping Johnny Flynn.  It boggles the mind.

The Twolves should have a young roster of:

C: Big Al / Pekovic
PF: Kevin Love
SF: Michael Beasley
SG: Stephen Curry
PG: Ricky Rubio (in the future)

That's a very intriguing young team that has first-tier talent (even though Love never should have been drafted.)  However, by taking Flynn and trading Big Al for nothing, the team really doomed itself.

It's especially [dang]ing because I don't see cap space as a big value to this team.  Top Free Agents aren't really lining up to go to Minnesota.  Like Oklahoma City, they should be stockpiling young talent and draft picks in a small market, which they are doing to a degree, but in really stupid and redundant ways.  And they bring in guys like Ridnour, who isn't bad, but is only taking away opportunities for guys like Flynn... it's just confusing.  

Usually with bad GM moves I can at least see what they were thinking.  Like they're putting too much stock in mediocre or old players.  That's bad but I can at least possibly understand it.  With Minnesota I can't get a lot of their moves.

Also, Wes Johnson ahead of Cousins will be looked back on as the giant mistake it was.  Kahn is truly a joke.

Yeah, true, I didn't even address this year's draft.  I'm just not sure what Kahn sees in mediocre Syracuse guys.

I have seen all of both Jonny and Wes's college career at Syracuse, and to label them mediocre is ridiculous. Flynn needs an offense to thrive in, not the stupid Triangle that doesn't use his talents on the fast break.

Wes will be a nice player in the NBA, and was the number 4 pick in the draft, he wouldn't have made it past 6 if the Wolves didn't take him. He won't be a number 1 scorer, but he will be a great #2 player.

[zerophase]

The guy just insulted him. I thought he did well not to be a complete and utter ****. He made a quick retort and had a sarcastic tone. If that was Charles Barley and Kahn tried to compare Darko to him, Barkely would have gone off. Larry Bird would have said worse if he was compared to Darko. Any superstar would. I thought Webber did well to contain himself.

Just because other people made have said worse things doesn't make what C-Webb said right.  I don't see why he couldn't just say nothing.

I don't think you get the mindset man.  These guys are big time competitors. Like Nickagenta says here, guys like Larry Bird would not take kindly to this kind of comparison.  C-Webb worked hard to become a great basketball player, and I'm sure he doesn't want to be compared to a player like Darko.  Sorry but that's how it is and for a competitor he did that about as nicely as he could.  And he was a teammate of Vlade so I'm sure took that pretty insultingly too.

I know what you're saying but he still could have just let it go.  It definitely could have been a lot worse though. 

Personally, I respect CWeb for defending himself and his career. Myself, I have never seen Chris play in his prime- if a GM like Khan starts comparing the two, viewers like me might actually start thinking that they were indeed comparable. I would have loved to see Barkley in that situation and his comments....

[xmuscularghandix]

This guy is such an ass. They asked him about what he’s doing to improve the floor product... and he talked about his new weightroom/lunch hall.

Then he suggests that Darko is as good a passer as Vlade Divac. He actually says this TO C-Webb.

Then compares Darko’s path as a pro to Webber, and Chris basically gets p---ed. Which i can’t blame him for.

I con’t care about the T-Wolves at all as an organization, they really have no positive history except for a 6 year stretch with KG, Yet i’m mad about the fact that this guy is allowed to run the team. It literally disgusts me.

[Moranis]

He did kinda compare careers by sayin Chris really wasnt that good till he went to Sacremento,

that is not what he said.

[nickagneta]

He did kinda compare careers by sayin Chris really wasnt that good till he went to Sacremento,

that is not what he said.

Here is what was said:

CWebb: ....All it takes is for someone to believe in you and put you into a position for success so I'll definitely be looking forward to watching his growth with you guys this year.

Kahn: Well, and I think your career is somewhat indicative. What year was it that you feel like kinda like that you felt like that you were on your own in the league?

CWebb: Well...you know....well...I'm not really sure but we not really talking about me and Darko at the same time. (Laughs)

Kahn: But not til you got to Sacramento did your career take off!?!?


That's exactly what was said. He said his career is somewhat indicative of the way Darko's can be looked at. That Darko is now just feeling like he's coming into his own on the league and that it took time, similar to CWebb's career, even giving the start of his career at Sacramento as a starting point for when Webber first started to feel like he belonged in the league.

I posted the first for years of Webber career above. He didn't get to Sactown until two years after that. Does it appear, according to his stats or from what you((or I) remember of watching his game that the man didn't feel like he belonged straight from the get go?

Kahn is comparing the first years of a guy that he admits wasn't ready for the NBA or good enough to be the second pick in the draft with a man who came into the league and was immediately a 20/10 threat and averaged 20/10 in his third year.

How can the inference not be that he was saying that Webber's early game was like Darko's early game? Sorry Moranis, you are just not seeing and hearing what the rest of us are. What Kahn said was stupid and insulting and he's an idiot for saying it and deserves all the scorn Webber hurled his way.