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Cavs (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game 4 5/9
« on: May 07, 2010, 11:37:08 PM »

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Cleveland Cavaliers (2-1) at Boston Celtics (1-2)
Sunday, May 9
3:30 PM ET
Round 2, Game 4
TV: ABC
TD Garden



Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
  vs 
Rajon Rondo vs Mo Williams

Shooting Guard
  vs 
Ray Allen vs Anthony Parker

Small Forward   
  vs 
Paul Pierce vs LeBron James

Power Forward 
  vs 
Kevin Garnett vs Antawn Jamison

Center
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Kendrick Perkins vs Shaquille O'Neal



Reserves
Rasheed Wallace
Glen Davis
Tony Allen
Nate Robinson
Shelden Williams
Brian Scalabrine
Michael Finley
Marquis Daniels
Tony Gaffney
Oliver Lafayette 

Injuries
None

Reserves
Daniel Gibson
Delonte West
Jamario Moon
Jawad Williams
Daniel Green
Leon Powe 
zydrunas Ilgauskas
Sebastian Telfair
Anderson Varejao
JJ Hickson   

Injuries
None

Key Matchups
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Rajon Rondo vs Mo Williams
Rondo continues to be the Celtics best player.  In game 3, the Cavs made him a shooter rather than a distributor.  Rondo needs to continue to be aggressive and to get his teammates the ball in position to score. 

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Kevin Garnett vs Antawn Jamison
KG has been shooting the ball well this matchup favors the Celtics.  They must do a better job of going to KG early and often.  KG also has to do a better job of beating Jamison to rebounds.  In game 3, Jamison had 12 rebounds and KG had 4.  KG has to be more aggressive on the boards.

Honorable Mention
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Rasheed Wallace vs Anderson Varejao
Sheed reverted to the old Sheed again after finally showing up in game 2.  Varejao was also up to his old tricks instigating and issuing cheap shots hoping for retaliation.   Sheed has got to do better than 2 points and 1 rebound. 

Players to Watch

Paul Pierce has been almost invisible in this series so far and Game 3 may have been his worst game yet.  He shot just 4-15, missing several wide open shots.  A bad offensive performance might be forgive if he had made up for it on the defensive end, but he did nothing to try to slow James down either.  The Celtics desperately need Pierce to show up for this game on both ends of the court. 


LeBron James hopefully put to rest any lingering questions about his elbow.  He is perfectly healthy and should be defended that way.  The Celtics allowed James to get anything he wanted in game 3 as he finished with 38 points.  The Celtics must do a better job of slowing him down and take the ball out of his hands as they did in game 2. 

Game Notes

After dominating in game 2, the Celtics failed to show up in game 3.  They didn't show up defensively and allowed the Cavs to get to get to the rim and to get open shots the entire game.  It wasn't so much that the Cavs were that much better, but the fact that the Celtics were that much worse defensively.   The result was the worst home playoff loss in Celtics history. 

The Celtics lost this game in the first quarter when they were out scored 36-17.  They played fairly close in the other 3 quarters, but the damage had already been done.   The officials took control of the game right from the start, calling 2 quick fouls on both KG and Perk and made it clear that it would not be an easy game for them.  But, the Celtics proved that they can win in spite of the referees, if they just play tough defense.  But the Celtics didn't play any defense so the loss is on them, not the refs.    The Celtics just rolled over and let the Cavs walk all over them.

Just like game 2 was just one game for the Cavs, game 3 is just one game for the Celtics.  They need to be motivated by this loss just as the Cavs were motivated by their game 2 loss.  The Celtics need to come out with a better effort, regardless of the early calls in the game and win game 4 to even the series.  They have proved that they can win in Cleveland and so this series isn't over by a long shot.  But, the Celtics must have more energy and effort, especially on defense, than we saw from them in game 3.

Keys to the Game
DEFENSE! DEFENSE!  DEFENSE! I can't say it enough, defense is the key to winning this game and the championship.  The team that plays the best defense most consistently will win the title.  The Celtics won game 2 with their defense.  They got blown out in  game 3 because they completely forgot how to play defense. The Cavs shot 62% in the first half of game 3 and they shot 59% for the game.   The Celtics must make playing defense a priority if they want to win this series. 

Rebound   The Celtics allowed the Cavs to out-rebound them 45-30 in game 3.   Rebounding is the result of desire and effort and it was obvious that the Cavs showed more of both in game 3.  The Celtics must work harder on the boards if they want to win this game. 

Focus for 48 Minutes -  The Celtics came out completely unfocused on both ends of the court.  The Cavs got the benefit of a lot of early calls and that seemed to completely demoralize the Celtics and take them out of the game. After that terrible first quarter, the game was called fairly evenly, but the damage had already been done.   The Celtics  proved in game 2 that if they just keep their focus they can beat the Cavs and the refs.  And they proved in game 3 that they can beat themselves if they lose that focus. 

Paul Pierce  The Celtics need their captain to step up in this game.  So far in the 1st 3 games, he has not been a factor.  In games 1 and 2 he at least played good defense but in game 3, he was ineffective on both ends of the court.   Pierce has to come out of his slump and give the Celtics a boost on both ends of the court.

X-Factors
Focus and the Officials
First let me say that the Celtics lost game 3 because they played no defense and lost their focus and just rolled over and let the Cavs walk over them   But, I think the first quarter's officiating had a lot to do with it. The early calls all went the Cavs way and the Celtics allowed that to rattle them.   We can expect more of the same bad officiating in game 4, but the Celtics can still win as long as they don't lose their focus.  They have to keep playing hard no matter how many early fouls are called on them.  If they keep playing hard, they will win, just as they did in game 2.  If they allow the refs to get into their heads as they did in game 3, they will lose again.   


Re: Cavs (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game 4 5/9
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 12:20:38 AM »

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This is depressing to say - But Game 3 just defined their season.

Game 4 will define the Celtics legacy in the Paul Pierce era - one and done or the fight continues.

The Celtics did fight back in the 1984 Finals after losing game 3 to the Lakers to win it in Seven. Frankly the Lakers were the better team but Boston was the tougher team beating up on the Lakers and winning the key rebounding battles. The Celtics of this year has not had the rebounding and defense.

Another Blowout on Sunday morning and I am out of here.
The beatings will continue until morale improves

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 12:59:03 AM »

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TP FLCF. I don't know you had the heart after this game to come out and put up a game thread this quickly. Really appreciate the amazing job you're doing. Really hope we can overcome our Sunday blues. This'll be an interesting game. Go Celtics!
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Re: Cavs (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game 4 5/9
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TP FLCF. I don't know you had the heart after this game to come out and put up a game thread this quickly. Really appreciate the amazing job you're doing. Really hope we can overcome our Sunday blues. This'll be an interesting game. Go Celtics!
Thanks for the TP and the kind words.  It was theraputic.  It was either put together a game thread for game 4 and look for reasons to hope or sit there and cry for an hour or two.   This was more productive.  

Re: Cavs (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game 4 5/9
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 09:06:43 AM »

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hoping they at least play with some effort and heart

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 09:50:00 AM »

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I hope for a win, but the game can really go both ways. If we're down 1-3 for Game 5, it's definitely over. If we're tied, I think we would still have a little chance.

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TP FLCF. I don't know you had the heart after this game to come out and put up a game thread this quickly. Really appreciate the amazing job you're doing. Really hope we can overcome our Sunday blues. This'll be an interesting game. Go Celtics!
Thanks for the TP and the kind words.  It was theraputic.  It was either put together a game thread for game 4 and look for reasons to hope or sit there and cry for an hour or two.   This was more productive.  

You put more effort into creating this thread than the Celtics did against Cleveland last night...  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2010, 11:21:07 AM »

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TP for FLCeltsFan, fantastic job as always, and therapeutic for me also. It was 4 AM here when Doc finished his press conference and the Bruins lost to the Flyers in OT. So when today I got to check spanish press, there's the elbow everywhere. Since Gasol joined the Lakers, it's been disgusting here, but it gets worse when they start cheering the Elbow and how the Elbow humilliated the Proud Green at home...  :-\

So it feels very good to read something that's well put together, and through my green glasses, words that really make sense. That's good for a change.

I'm hoping for a win on Sunday, but mostly I want the Celtics to fight through 48 minutes against odds, against the referees, and against LelBow James and the LeBrons.

TPs for all, see you back at this thread on sunday.  ;)

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2010, 11:57:04 AM »

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As as I said in another post, the '85 Celtics blew out the Lakers in the first game of the series 148-114.  They then went on to lose in 6 games.  So let's not start having selective memories and thinking that "great teams" never get blown out. 

While last night was very, very depressing, if the C's bounce back tomorrow, they still have a shot. 

Also, watching Around the Horn and PTI yesterday, the media had begun to overreact and start to write off the Cavs.  Undoubtedly the same thing will happen today with the C's.  Let's not overreact too.  It was one bad game, just like Cleveland had in Game 2.  As long as we win tomorrow, we're OK. 

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I have just one thing to add, FL.  Kevin Garnett!  Get emotional!  Be Kevin Garnett!  Yell and scream!  Bark!  Stay involved in the game whether you are on the floor or on the bench!  And never show your team mates (or the opponents) that you are tired or that you give up.  If you do these things I don't think the team can have a let down, and, win or lose, your fans will support you.   TP, FL
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Re: Cavs (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game 4 5/9
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We are playing for our season, and possibly the era of the big three on this one. Here's to hoping we can get a win and not leave me in the bad mood to start studying for finals. Oh, and my floormates will probably witness my yelling tomorrow, whether that is out of happiness or disgust...
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Theres two ways to approach playing a team with one dominant player. You can stop everyone else and say "beat me by yourself", or you can stop him and make the role players beat you.

Game 3 we were telling him to let someone else beat us, and he beat us anyways... then we let everyone score.

 
We also need to out rebound this team in order to have a chance, in game 3 they didn't out-hustle us... we literally just fumbled them off our fingers and handed them more possessions.

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I won't be in the game thread Sunday, but I am looking forward to recapping a great win on Monday morning!! Go Celtics!!!

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Go Celtics.
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I won't be in the game thread Sunday, but I am looking forward to recapping a great win on Monday morning!! Go Celtics!!!

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