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« Reply #390 on: April 10, 2018, 12:16:42 PM »

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I saw Black Panther on it's opening Thursday night showing in IMAX. For the life of me, I can't figure out why its doing so well in the box office. Don't get me wrong, I liked it but there was nothing special about it either. It was a typical Marvel movie, but with basically the characters and setting from the Lion King.

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« Reply #391 on: April 10, 2018, 12:33:04 PM »

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I saw Black Panther on it's opening Thursday night showing in IMAX. For the life of me, I can't figure out why its doing so well in the box office. Don't get me wrong, I liked it but there was nothing special about it either. It was a typical Marvel movie, but with basically the characters and setting from the Lion King.

For me, being a Marvel Comics geek, "typical Marvel movie" is a good thing, as I've found all the MCU movies entertaining and enjoyable, but I understand what you're sayingóas I mentioned in an earlier comment, I like Black Panther, but I can't say that it's one of my favorites (at least, not after only one viewing of it).

I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well madeómeaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.
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« Reply #392 on: April 10, 2018, 01:42:24 PM »

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I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well madeómeaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.

I don't think that's wrong, but I do think that's assigning too much influence to that narrative alone. White people, lots of while people, are making this movie the 1st or 2nd most successful Marvel movie of all time. I saw it. I really liked it. But I didn't see Thor Ragnorak in movie theaters but I enjoyed it more. Meanwhile Spiderman Homecoming also did better than Thor R. and while I also liked that move quite a bit, I found Thor to be better.

So are black people going to see Black Panther because it is some kind of cultural benchmark (where we also forget that Wesley Snipes played a black superhero from the Marvel universe 20 years ago) having a black super hero and a black cast in a land that celebrates black culture? Sure. Is that the primary motivation to the movie performing better? No way.

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« Reply #393 on: April 10, 2018, 02:21:50 PM »

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I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well madeómeaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.

I don't think that's wrong, but I do think that's assigning too much influence to that narrative alone. White people, lots of while people, are making this movie the 1st or 2nd most successful Marvel movie of all time. I saw it. I really liked it. But I didn't see Thor Ragnorak in movie theaters but I enjoyed it more. Meanwhile Spiderman Homecoming also did better than Thor R. and while I also liked that move quite a bit, I found Thor to be better.

So are black people going to see Black Panther because it is some kind of cultural benchmark (where we also forget that Wesley Snipes played a black superhero from the Marvel universe 20 years ago) having a black super hero and a black cast in a land that celebrates black culture? Sure. Is that the primary motivation to the movie performing better? No way.

I agree that there are lots of white people seeing Black Panther, because there are a lot of white Marvel nerds (such as myself)óin fact, comic-book nerddom tends to be dominated by whites.

But I think having a movie composed almost entirely of black characters gives it an added value that makes it more of a draw for black audiences than any other Marvel movie to date. Marvel expanded its appeal and its target audience with this movie, and the box-office totals are reflecting that.
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« Reply #394 on: April 11, 2018, 10:12:13 AM »

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Avengers: Infinity War is on track to outsell Black Panther in presale tickets so anticipation is high for that one. It'll have to be good to have the legs that Black Panther had, though.

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« Reply #395 on: April 11, 2018, 10:14:40 AM »

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Avengers: Infinity War is on track to outsell Black Panther in presale tickets so anticipation is high for that one. It'll have to be good to have the legs that Black Panther had, though.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-infinity-war-beating-black-panther-set-new-presales-record-1101631

It will be tough, if only due to increased competition.


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« Reply #396 on: April 11, 2018, 10:24:08 AM »

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Remember when breaking box office records actually used to mean something?

Now just about any branded junk can do it.

Nowadays I feel kinda like Immortan Joe when I read about this stuff:


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« Reply #397 on: April 11, 2018, 10:25:12 AM »

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I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well madeómeaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.

I don't think that's wrong, but I do think that's assigning too much influence to that narrative alone. White people, lots of while people, are making this movie the 1st or 2nd most successful Marvel movie of all time. I saw it. I really liked it. But I didn't see Thor Ragnorak in movie theaters but I enjoyed it more. Meanwhile Spiderman Homecoming also did better than Thor R. and while I also liked that move quite a bit, I found Thor to be better.

So are black people going to see Black Panther because it is some kind of cultural benchmark (where we also forget that Wesley Snipes played a black superhero from the Marvel universe 20 years ago) having a black super hero and a black cast in a land that celebrates black culture? Sure. Is that the primary motivation to the movie performing better? No way.

I agree that there are lots of white people seeing Black Panther, because there are a lot of white Marvel nerds (such as myself)óin fact, comic-book nerddom tends to be dominated by whites.

But I think having a movie composed almost entirely of black characters gives it an added value that makes it more of a draw for black audiences than any other Marvel movie to date. Marvel expanded its appeal and its target audience with this movie, and the box-office totals are reflecting that.

I think thatís right.

I also think that Black Panther is just a really tight, well-composed, good movie. It took on a cultural significance, but if it had sucked (like a Wrinkle In Time) nobody would be going to repeat showings.

I know that for me, I liked it more than any Marvel movie since Captain America 2 (or maybe GOTG). Iíve thought almost all of them were good, with only Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 being outright misses for me. For whatever reason, though, certain movies resonate more than others, and Black Panther was supremely entertaining to me.


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« Reply #398 on: April 11, 2018, 10:27:00 AM »

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Remember when breaking box office records actually used to mean something?

Now just about any branded junk can do it.



Ha. I didnít enjoy that Mad Max film much at all. My friends and most critics seem to think Iím crazy.


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« Reply #399 on: April 11, 2018, 12:21:17 PM »

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Avengers: Infinity War is on track to outsell Black Panther in presale tickets so anticipation is high for that one. It'll have to be good to have the legs that Black Panther had, though.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-infinity-war-beating-black-panther-set-new-presales-record-1101631

It will be tough, if only due to increased competition.
The Solo Star Wars movie comes out 3 weeks after Infinity Wars which will probably cut into Infinity Wars ability to earn really well for very long at the box office. Though, I guess most blockbusters do like 70% of their earnings in the first 3 weeks, so we will see.