Can Anybody name a better draft than 2003?

[KCattheStripe]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

[JSD]

I'll go with the 1984 class:

Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
Michael Jordan
Alvin Robertson
John Stockton

[JSD]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

3 time all-star Antoine Walker doesn't make the team now?

[JSD]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

3 time all-star Antoine Walker doesn't make the team now?

Disregard... you had him at the 3.

[KCattheStripe]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

3 time all-star Antoine Walker doesn't make the team now?

Disregard... you had him at the 3.

Thats what he's listed as on Wiki.

[Rondo2287]

Ya I did a little bit of a double take at toine starting at the 3 thing

Are we sure wiki wasnt just referring to the shots he took and not his position?

[JSD]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

3 time all-star Antoine Walker doesn't make the team now?

Disregard... you had him at the 3.

Thats what he's listed as on Wiki.

Yeah you're right. He was a sf/pf up until these last couple of years. I just didn't look there for some reason.

[Hoops]

1984 was pretty good:

Michael Jordan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
John Stockton

Those guys are all arguably top-five at their positions, all-time.

Other players were guys like Alvin Robertson, Sam Perkins, Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, and Jerome Kersey.  2003 was deeper, but I don't think any draft has had four elite players of the quality that '84 did.

Yeah, to this day everyone crucifies Portland for drafting Bowie because they missed out on Jordan. But selecting Bowie looks even worse knowing that Portland ALSO missed on Hakeem, Barkley and Stockton. Ouch. Portland made the Finals twice in the early 90s with Clyde and co. - imagine if they had one of the '84 class HOFers in that mix...oh what could have been...

[fairweatherfan]

1984 was pretty good:

Michael Jordan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
John Stockton

Those guys are all arguably top-five at their positions, all-time.

Other players were guys like Alvin Robertson, Sam Perkins, Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, and Jerome Kersey.  2003 was deeper, but I don't think any draft has had four elite players of the quality that '84 did.

Yeah, to this day everyone crucifies Portland for drafting Bowie because they missed out on Jordan. But selecting Bowie looks even worse knowing that Portland ALSO missed on Hakeem, Barkley and Stockton. Ouch. Portland made the Finals twice in the early 90s with Clyde and co. - imagine if they had one of the '84 class HOFers in that mix...oh what could have been...

Hakeem went #1, Bowie was #2.  And Bowie probably would've been an All-Star caliber player if he didn't have the bones of an 80 year old woman.  Still no Jordan, of course.  And Oden shows they didn't learn their lesson...
 
Classic draft mistake to help us all forget about '01: in 1985 Dallas picked Detlef Schrempf (and traded him before he got good), Bill Wennington, and the immortal Uwe Blab in the top 17 picks.  Players they passed on include Karl Malone, Joe Dumars (3 times), Terry Porter, Michael Adams, and Arvydas Sabonis (all 3 times).

I think '03 is gonna be up there - right now it's a Top 5 class and maybe #1 in total depth.  Depends how the main guys' careers wind up working out.

[xmuscularghandix]

The thing is that it's only been 6 years, what happens if some of these careers die out and they turn into nothings.

I think the 1996 draft is comparable.

PG: Nash, Iverson, Marbury, Fisher
SG: Kobe, Ray Allen, Kittles 
SF: Antoine, Peja
PF: Shareef, J O'Neal
 C: Ben Wallace (undrafted), Marcus Camby, Zylgauskus, Erik Dampier

I mean come on... look at that PG class, look at that group of big men!

and if you look at some of 96's stats 6 years into their careers, there are some guys you would include that you wouldn't now.

I didn't count Wallace because I thought it would be cheating.

3 time all-star Antoine Walker doesn't make the team now?

Disregard... you had him at the 3.

Thats what he's listed as on Wiki.

Yeah you're right. He was a sf/pf up until these last couple of years. I just didn't look there for some reason.

Antoine is the player i'm talking about dropping off after 6 years.

[Jon]

So, who's going to do it for 2000?

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Kenyon Martin
SF: Michael Redd
SG: Mike Miller
PG: Keyon Dooling

Bench:
Jamal Crawford
Jamaal Magliore
Stro Swift
Mo Pete
Speedy Claxton
Des Mason
Q-Rich

That's what...  a 20 win team, tops?

How does the immortal Jerome Moiso not make that team?!?!

[Big_Matt34]

2004 Draft

Devin Harris/Jameer Nelson/Delonte West
Kevin Martin/Ben Gordon/JR Smith
Andre Iguodala/Luol Deng/Trevor Ariza
Al Jefferson/Josh Smith/Anderson Varejão
Dwight Howard/Emeka Okafor/Andris Biedrens

1998 draft, not the best but they'd be able to score with anyone.

Mike Bibby/Jason Williams/Tyronn Lue
Vince Carter/Cuttino Mobley/Ricky Davis
Paul Pierce/Larry Hughes/Bonzi Wells
Rashard Lewis/Antwan Jamison/Al Harrington
Dirk Nowitzki/Michael Olowokandi/Nazr Mohammed

[Edgar]

arghh feels like CB fake draft all over again...

I am dizzzyyyy   

[Hoops]

1984 was pretty good:

Michael Jordan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
John Stockton

Those guys are all arguably top-five at their positions, all-time.

Other players were guys like Alvin Robertson, Sam Perkins, Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, and Jerome Kersey.  2003 was deeper, but I don't think any draft has had four elite players of the quality that '84 did.

Yeah, to this day everyone crucifies Portland for drafting Bowie because they missed out on Jordan. But selecting Bowie looks even worse knowing that Portland ALSO missed on Hakeem, Barkley and Stockton. Ouch. Portland made the Finals twice in the early 90s with Clyde and co. - imagine if they had one of the '84 class HOFers in that mix...oh what could have been...

Hakeem went #1, Bowie was #2.  And Bowie probably would've been an All-Star caliber player if he didn't have the bones of an 80 year old woman.  Still no Jordan, of course.  And Oden shows they didn't learn their lesson...

Oh, right - I didn't mean to suggest Portland could have had Hakeem. Obviously, Portland thought Bowie was going to be an all-star player too - woulda, coulda, shoulda...

The Oden/Bowie comparison is an obvious and easy one to make, but I just don't think it's going to shake out that way. Oden may never be an HOFer, but I really believe he'll have a much better (and healthier) career than Bowie.

[RebusRankin]

Now that's a fun topic, huge draft mistakes.

How about San Antonio drafting Alfredrick Hughes (SG) at 14 in 1985. They could have drafted Dumars, Gerald Wilkins, Mario Elie or Sam Vincent and that's just shooting guards.