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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2009, 07:39:44 AM »

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Great, now instead of him self-medicating himself with marijuana he'll be getting banged up on Benzodiazepines. I feel for anyone who has depression like symptoms, but the diagnosis seems a little too quick. I think the Heat have stepped in here in some capacity... Not to say Beasely doesn't need guidance or counseling but he's being hospitalized after that picture? I don't know... odd.

I would imagine the hospitalization was voluntary.  I think the criteria for involuntary commitment is something along the lines of "an imminent threat to yourself or others".  Having suicidal thoughts isn't enough; the person recommending commitment must believe that you're likely to commit suicide in the near future.

So, it's likely Beasley checked himself in.  Whether that was purely weed related, or whether instead he needed to clear his head and work through some legitimate issues, is unknown. 

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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2009, 08:00:54 AM »

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Really a tough story here, never want to see this happen to anybody, hopefully he gets all the help that he needs putting basketball aside for the moment. 
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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2009, 08:04:36 AM »

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Great, now instead of him self-medicating himself with marijuana he'll be getting banged up on Benzodiazepines. I feel for anyone who has depression like symptoms, but the diagnosis seems a little too quick. I think the Heat have stepped in here in some capacity... Not to say Beasely doesn't need guidance or counseling but he's being hospitalized after that picture? I don't know... odd.

I would imagine the hospitalization was voluntary.  I think the criteria for involuntary commitment is something along the lines of "an imminent threat to yourself or others".  Having suicidal thoughts isn't enough; the person recommending commitment must believe that you're likely to commit suicide in the near future.

So, it's likely Beasley checked himself in.  Whether that was purely weed related, or whether instead he needed to clear his head and work through some legitimate issues, is unknown. 

Yeah, it definitely sounds like he checked himself in.  It is not an easy thing to have someone committed, there has to be good reason for it.  

Honestly, I doubt this is directly related to weed.  It may be indirectly related, or more like a symptom of the depression...basically self medication. My guess is he was just a young guy, spiraling out of control from depression, and he hit his breaking point.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if it comes out that he went in for an alcohol addiction.  

Either way, the fact that he checked himself into a hospital is good news (assuming he did in fact do it himself).  If he really believes he has a problem and is seeking help, then he may be able to get better. 

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2009, 08:13:50 AM »

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Great, now instead of him self-medicating himself with marijuana he'll be getting banged up on Benzodiazepines. I feel for anyone who has depression like symptoms, but the diagnosis seems a little too quick. I think the Heat have stepped in here in some capacity... Not to say Beasely doesn't need guidance or counseling but he's being hospitalized after that picture? I don't know... odd.

I would imagine the hospitalization was voluntary.  I think the criteria for involuntary commitment is something along the lines of "an imminent threat to yourself or others".  Having suicidal thoughts isn't enough; the person recommending commitment must believe that you're likely to commit suicide in the near future.

So, it's likely Beasley checked himself in.  Whether that was purely weed related, or whether instead he needed to clear his head and work through some legitimate issues, is unknown. 

Yeah, it definitely sounds like he checked himself in.  It is not an easy thing to have someone committed, there has to be good reason for it.  

Honestly, I doubt this is directly related to weed.  It may be indirectly related, or more like a symptom of the depression...basically self medication. My guess is he was just a young guy, spiraling out of control from depression, and he hit his breaking point.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if it comes out that he went in for an alcohol addiction.  

Either way, the fact that he checked himself into a hospital is good news (assuming he did in fact do it himself).  If he really believes he has a problem and is seeking help, then he may be able to get better. 

According to Chris Broussard (citing league sources) this is purely due to marijuana (which Beasley has a major problem with), rather than legit psychological issues. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

I think some credence is given to that report by the fact that Beasley is working with John Lucas, who is known for rehabilitating athletes with drug and alcohol issues (after Lucas struggled with his own addictions, which basically ended his NBA playing career.)

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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2009, 08:51:21 AM »

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A person is always a biopsychosocial creature, meaning that there is a genetic component as well as psychosocial factors like life events, environmental stress, personality factor and  coping strategies. There are some intresting views on depression explained by K. Abraham, M Klein and J Bowbly, but that would take us way off.
What we can conclude by all of this is, that the drugs he took induced the depression, or high psychosocial stress induced or some other illness induced it. Hey even an chronic inflammatoire disease may cause it. ( by activating the IDO system what may lead to tryptofaan depletion)

second i want to react to people who say it is hard to  get hospitalised for it. I know from personal experience, few things are easier.

third, data retrieved from kaplan and saddock, 2000, say that depression occurs in 10-25 % of woman, 5-12%of men, while bipolar I 0,4-1,6 bipolar II 0,5 %

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2009, 08:58:01 AM »

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I dunno - I have never heard of anyone checking themselves into rehab over purely marijuana.
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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2009, 09:11:48 AM »

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I think it may be different here though Brick because Im not 100% of the NBA's drug testing policy but if he cant play after testing for Marijauna he may wanna get it taken care of before the season starts.  But im not sure, just a thought. 
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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2009, 09:32:33 AM »

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I dunno - I have never heard of anyone checking themselves into rehab over purely marijuana.

I've seen it a couple times. They were heavy smokers though. And once a 19 year old. So it happens overhere.

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2009, 11:34:32 AM »

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Just so that people aren't thinking that the treatment for depression is medication, for a very large amount of people the treatment for depression is simply counseling. I went through this out-patient therapy hospitalization in Rhode Island that had nothing to do with medication. It was about education of your disease, individual therapy, group therapy, daily time structuring, relaxation therapy, and social interaction as well as a very little bit of spiritual therapy(non-denominational).

The educational, relaxation and group therapy sessions were unbelievably  helpful. other said the need to be there from 9am-4pm helped them structure their day which helped immensely(I was already a very structured person when it came to time so I saw little need for that but could see where it might be helpful).

Just because Beasley is going into rehab or hospitalization doesn't mean he's suddenly going to be having psychotropic drugs being thrown his way.

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2009, 11:39:59 AM »

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Have I mentioned that despite having that slight disagreement with Nick that I love the guy and I certainly hope that Beasley gets himself well and is back on the court ASAP?
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Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2009, 12:01:37 PM »

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According to Chris Broussard (citing league sources) this is purely due to marijuana (which Beasley has a major problem with), rather than legit psychological issues. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

I think some credence is given to that report by the fact that Beasley is working with John Lucas, who is known for rehabilitating athletes with drug and alcohol issues (after Lucas struggled with his own addictions, which basically ended his NBA playing career.)

  Does everyone remember when "depression" was the nba codeword for "cocaine problem"?

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2009, 12:41:17 PM »

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According to Chris Broussard (citing league sources) this is purely due to marijuana (which Beasley has a major problem with), rather than legit psychological issues. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

I think some credence is given to that report by the fact that Beasley is working with John Lucas, who is known for rehabilitating athletes with drug and alcohol issues (after Lucas struggled with his own addictions, which basically ended his NBA playing career.)

  Does everyone remember when "depression" was the nba codeword for "cocaine problem"?
Yeah that entire 1986 draft had "depression" problems

Bias
Washburn
Bedford
Tarpley
 
and a bunch of other very "colorful" individuals were probably "depressed" like

Walter Berry
Dwayne Washington
Kenny Walker
Roy Tarpley
John Salley
Dennis Rodman
Kevin Duckworth.

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2009, 12:41:51 PM »

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According to Chris Broussard (citing league sources) this is purely due to marijuana (which Beasley has a major problem with), rather than legit psychological issues. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

I think some credence is given to that report by the fact that Beasley is working with John Lucas, who is known for rehabilitating athletes with drug and alcohol issues (after Lucas struggled with his own addictions, which basically ended his NBA playing career.)

  Does everyone remember when "depression" was the nba codeword for "cocaine problem"?
Yeah I do, if that were still true I'd be very worried about Beasley.

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2009, 12:52:19 PM »

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According to Chris Broussard (citing league sources) this is purely due to marijuana (which Beasley has a major problem with), rather than legit psychological issues. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

I think some credence is given to that report by the fact that Beasley is working with John Lucas, who is known for rehabilitating athletes with drug and alcohol issues (after Lucas struggled with his own addictions, which basically ended his NBA playing career.)

  Does everyone remember when "depression" was the nba codeword for "cocaine problem"?
Yeah that entire 1986 draft had "depression" problems

Bias
Washburn
Bedford
Tarpley
 
and a bunch of other very "colorful" individuals were probably "depressed" like

Walter Berry
Dwayne Washington
Kenny Walker
Roy Tarpley
John Salley
Dennis Rodman
Kevin Duckworth.


  Don't forget Bison Dele (although he might not have been Bison Dele at the time but (I think) Brian Williams.

Re: Michael Beasley hospitalized for depression
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