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The worst story in sports
« on: May 28, 2009, 07:23:31 PM »

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'Angry' Man Utd fan kills four in bus attack

 Story Highlights
* Man drives minibus into a crowd celebrating Barcelona's Champions League win
* The Manchester United supporter was angry after his team's defeat in final
* Nigerian police confirm that 10 people were also injured in the attack
* Man was arrested after incident that took place in the town of Ogbo

(CNN) -- A man "angered" by Manchester United's defeat to Barcelona in the final of the Champions League killed four people when he drove a minibus into a crowd celebrating the Spanish side's victory, police in Nigeria have told CNN.

Ten people were also injured in the incident in the town of Ogbo, where the driver was subsequently arrested, a Port Harcourt Police spokesperson said.

"He was displaying his anger at his team losing the match. The driver had passed the crowd then made a U-turn and ran into them," spokesperson Rita Inomey-Abbey said.

Both Manchester United and Barcelona have a large fan base across the African continent, with millions tuning in to watch European football on a weekly basis.


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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 07:37:26 PM »

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My Lord.  That's inhuman.

Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 07:53:52 PM »

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That's horrible.



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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 07:58:01 PM »

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messed up but a manchester u fan also got stabbed for supporting them like two days ago

Re: The worst story in sports
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messed up but a manchester u fan also got stabbed for supporting them like two days ago

I just think, overall,(and I'm trying not to make a generalization here) that some soccer fans go way overboard in support of their squads.  For full disclosure, I really don't follow soccer except when the World Cup rolls around.  However, it seems like there is a real prevalence for violence when it comes to soccer matches for some reason as opposed to other sports.  You turn on the television and you see soccer riots in the stands either in South America or Europe or hearing about a player getting killed because of something that happened in a match.  That's pretty sickening. That's taking out your hatred an opposing team or player waaaaayyyy too far and, sadly, these two incidents pointed out can't be considered isolated.


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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 08:11:32 PM »

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messed up but a manchester u fan also got stabbed for supporting them like two days ago

I just think, overall,(and I'm trying not to make a generalization here) that some soccer fans go way overboard in support of their squads.  For full disclosure, I really don't follow soccer except when the World Cup rolls around.  However, it seems like there is a real prevalence for violence when it comes to soccer matches for some reason as opposed to other sports.  You turn on the television and you see soccer riots in the stands either in South America or Europe or hearing about a player getting killed because of something that happened in a match.  That's pretty sickening. That's taking out your hatred an opposing team or player waaaaayyyy too far and, sadly, these two incidents pointed out can't be considered isolated.

I think a lot has to do with the provincialism of fans and their teams.  This stuff goes deep, and some rivalries go back hundreds of years...Maybe not in soccer, but certainly between cities.  That connection of team and city does not exist to anywhere near that degree in the U.S.. (Maybe at the high school level here if anything.)

Think about how much you loved your team in high school, then multiply, and add a lot of booze.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 08:17:44 PM »

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messed up but a manchester u fan also got stabbed for supporting them like two days ago

I just think, overall,(and I'm trying not to make a generalization here) that some soccer fans go way overboard in support of their squads.  For full disclosure, I really don't follow soccer except when the World Cup rolls around.  However, it seems like there is a real prevalence for violence when it comes to soccer matches for some reason as opposed to other sports.  You turn on the television and you see soccer riots in the stands either in South America or Europe or hearing about a player getting killed because of something that happened in a match.  That's pretty sickening. That's taking out your hatred an opposing team or player waaaaayyyy too far and, sadly, these two incidents pointed out can't be considered isolated.

I think a lot has to do with the provincialism of fans and their teams.  This stuff goes deep, and some rivalries go back hundreds of years...Maybe not in soccer, but certainly between cities.  That connection of team and city does not exist to anywhere near that degree in the U.S.. (Maybe at the high school level here if anything.)

Think about how much you loved your team in high school, then multiply, and add a lot of booze.

I mean, I've seen the occasional Yankee fan get their butt kicked and such but its just inconceivable to me that fans can take it soooooo far to the point that they're killing opposing fans or players. 

I understand that some of these rivalries are deeply rooted but I just thought that at this point, in 2009, that people would be past this type of senseless violence when it comes to sports of all things.

Of course, as an American, I may just not "get" it but I'm not sure how I could if that's the case.


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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 08:20:58 PM »

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messed up but a manchester u fan also got stabbed for supporting them like two days ago

I just think, overall,(and I'm trying not to make a generalization here) that some soccer fans go way overboard in support of their squads.  For full disclosure, I really don't follow soccer except when the World Cup rolls around.  However, it seems like there is a real prevalence for violence when it comes to soccer matches for some reason as opposed to other sports.  You turn on the television and you see soccer riots in the stands either in South America or Europe or hearing about a player getting killed because of something that happened in a match.  That's pretty sickening. That's taking out your hatred an opposing team or player waaaaayyyy too far and, sadly, these two incidents pointed out can't be considered isolated.

I think a lot has to do with the provincialism of fans and their teams.  This stuff goes deep, and some rivalries go back hundreds of years...Maybe not in soccer, but certainly between cities.  That connection of team and city does not exist to anywhere near that degree in the U.S.. (Maybe at the high school level here if anything.)

Think about how much you loved your team in high school, then multiply, and add a lot of booze.

I mean, I've seen the occasional Yankee fan get their butt kicked and such but its just inconceivable to me that fans can take it soooooo far to the point that they're killing opposing fans or players. 

I understand that some of these rivalries are deeply rooted but I just thought that at this point, in 2009, that people would be past this type of senseless violence when it comes to sports of all things.

Of course, as an American, I may just not "get" it but I'm not sure how I could if that's the case.

I think the last line is it.

Not that we haven't had our share of riots in the streets etc...
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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 08:41:09 PM »

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there was also violence in ireland (last week?) to do with celtic i think...politics add to the insane loyalty european fans have for their teams

any real fans out there should watch a movie i caught on indie chanel or something, it had the kid who was in the hobbit movies had to do with violence and english soccer
really sad/scary if you have any idea how bad things can be at a match

just googled it, called hooligans (of course) , even if you are not a soccer fan or ball player watch the movie

Re: US vs Europe
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 09:00:10 PM »

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I agree 100% with Redz' comment (TP) - it is indeed fruit of the provincialism. I think that the large distances (that avoid to host 10000 LA-fans in Boston during the NBA finals) help a lot.

I don't want to be trivial, but I want to add another reason: the abyss between Europe (and probably most of the word) and US in sport education. The sport in Europe is seen as THE OUTLET, not only for who plays, but especially for who supports. Many people (the "TRUE" fans) live the week waiting and preparing for the Sunday (clearly I am referring to the "ultra" of the big clubs). In this way, that moment assumes an importance that it should not have. Not to say, that -I know that I seem exaggerated, but I promise you I am not- some supporters (again the "REAL" ultra) don't really care about the game nearly as much as of the war of the stadium.

But I want to add my 2 cents fruit of personal experience, as I come from Europe... were accidents happen, and I have assisted a bunch of times to soccer events.
1. In US the only time I heard an F-word at a match, I've seen people turning from 5 rows below to see the utterer, while in Europe there are chants with F-words sung by all the stadium - not to say that they have a special "uh uh uh" treatment for black players; 2. In US I saw a guy taken away by police because he was screaming to the batter from the seats close to the box, while in Europe the curve "typically" throws (generally no more than coins) to the players (I've seen throwing a water tap to the famous goalkeeper Buffon- luckily it didn't hit him); 3. In US some Rockets dudes asked me -green shirt- to take a picture of them, after the Celtics winning match in Houston, while in Europe if I support the visitor team, I need to wait in the stadium for 1 hour after the end of the game that the homers leave; 4. In US families go together at the stadium, in Europe mostly adult men go to the stadium (it's too dangerous to bring kids).


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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 09:13:50 PM »

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But I want to add my 2 cents fruit of personal experience, as I come from Europe... were accidents happen, and I have assisted a bunch of times to soccer events.
1. In US the only time I heard an F-word at a match, I've seen people turning from 5 rows below to see the utterer, while in Europe there are chants with F-words sung by all the stadium - not to say that they have a special "uh uh uh" treatment for black players; 2. In US I saw a guy taken away by police because he was screaming to the batter from the seats close to the box, while in Europe the curve "typically" throws (generally no more than coins) to the players (I've seen throwing a water tap to the famous goalkeeper Buffon- luckily it didn't hit him); 3. In US some Rockets dudes asked me -green shirt- to take a picture of them, after the Celtics winning match in Houston, while in Europe if I support the visitor team, I need to wait in the stadium for 1 hour after the end of the game that the homers leave; 4. In US families go together at the stadium, in Europe mostly adult men go to the stadium (it's too dangerous to bring kids).



This last part is a fairly recent phenomenon in US stadiums - an effort to make things "family friendly".

I can distinctly remember at the old Schaeffer Stadium in Foxboro, Pats fans on opposite sides of the field doing their take on the old Lite beer "Tastes Great vs Less Filling" argument by chanting in turn "Bull bleep" "F you" (accept they disn't abbreviate.  And I'm talking about 20 to 30 thousand people on either side of the field. 

Things have definitely been cleaned up in the US stadiums.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 10:22:00 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2009, 10:54:42 PM »

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Soccer fans really take their teams seriously. I use to hear about Japanese fans committing suicide after losing a big game.
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The real question is this, why is this happening in Nigeria?  Barce is a Spaniard club and ManU is English.
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Re: The worst story in sports
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 12:59:29 AM »

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The real question is this, why is this happening in Nigeria?  Barce is a Spaniard club and ManU is English.

Because "soccer" is global, just like
the Celtics and the NBA are global.

Terrible story, btw, though sadly I'm
not even surprised.