Suns consider trading Stoudemire- S.I.

[greg_kite]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/87514-suns-consider-trading-stoudemire?eref=fromSI

I can't think of who they could get for Amare that would make them better.  It would have to be another PF since their roster looks pretty good at every other position.

Maybe Amare for Josh Smith and Pachulia?  I guess that could work, but I still think Atlanta would get the best of the deal.

Any more ideas?

[xmuscularghandix]

It'd probably be for a Draft pick and a decent player with an expiring contract.

[Bankshot]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/87514-suns-consider-trading-stoudemire?eref=fromSI

I can't think of who they could get for Amare that would make them better.  It would have to be another PF since their roster looks pretty good at every other position.

Maybe Amare for Josh Smith and Pachulia?  I guess that could work, but I still think Atlanta would get the best of the deal.

Any more ideas?

I actually think is a good trade for Phoenix.  They get rid of the lazy Stoudemire for one really good and one decent player, both who actually play some defense.

Didn't they have a chance to trade him for KG, but thought Stoudemire was better than KG?  BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wdleehi]

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[Rondo_is_better]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/87514-suns-consider-trading-stoudemire?eref=fromSI

I can't think of who they could get for Amare that would make them better.  It would have to be another PF since their roster looks pretty good at every other position.

Maybe Amare for Josh Smith and Pachulia?  I guess that could work, but I still think Atlanta would get the best of the deal.

Any more ideas?

I actually think is a good trade for Phoenix.  They get rid of the lazy Stoudemire for one really good and one decent player, both who actually play some defense.

Didn't they have a chance to trade him for KG, but thought Stoudemire was better than KG?  BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Dude, Stoudemire IS better. Look at his gaudy scoring numbers and flashy blocks. Look at how much he dominates on the boards. Eight a game with no other rebounders on his team? WOW! Plus, Stoudemire's rings speak for themselves......

wait.....

[the_Bird]

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The Detroit trade makes some sense.  They'd be getting back a legit (maybe not this year) near-All Star that's still in his prime.

The other deals - they aren't taking Marion back.  From Cleveland, they'd need to get back more than Delonte and Varejao.  From Orlando, Tuek's not enough. 

I know that Phoenix' owner is cheap, but I can't see them dumping Amare JUST for salary relief.  We know that 9 times out of ten, in NBA trades two nickels aren't worth a dime; they're going to lose out on any trade where they get back just a couple of decent players.  They need to get back someone GOOD. 

That's why the Detroit deal makes sense.  Plus, Detroit really needs to retool, and they've got to be at least thinking about life post-'Sheed.  I know Rip's numbers are down this year, but I don't think he's the problem in Motown - unfortunately, I can't see how AI has much value beyond just being an expiring contract. 

[Bankshot]

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I'm not scared of any of those possibilities.  Especially Cleveland.  While Amare is a better offensive player than Varajao, I think Cleveland loses a lot on the defensive end, unless Amare decides he wants to play some defense.  I think this trade would help the Celtics because Varajao is tough on KG.

[Celtic]

Man Steve Kerr really needs to relax before he trades away that whole team. They have become so much worse since they changed up styles and GMs, no they were never going to win a championship the way they were built, but they clearly aren't going to win one now. Steve Kerr is reminding me of when Isaiah was in charge in NY, he couldn't stop himself from making moves, the two of them need to go to Traders Anonymous.

[Cman]

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the_Bird and Bank Shot beat me to it. ...
I think the Detroit trade makes the most sense for both teams.  I don't see the Miami trade happening (b/c PHX won't take back Marion), nor does PHX get enough back in either the Cleveland or Orlando trades.  Plus, I don't really see the upside for Orlando - they lose a unique long range shooting big in Hedo who complements Howard for a player with more or less the same skillset as Howard.  

The Cleveland trade would be the scariest IMHO, but thankfully it is unlikely b/c I don't think Cleveland has anymore draft picks to trade and there would have to be at least 2 1st rounders included to pull off such a trade.

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

Too bad they already got rid of Boris Diaw, who destroyed Amare  and the Suns last night...Amare is having a terrible year as are the suns..I was actually embarrassed for them and suns fans after this recent road trip compounded by getting absolutely punked by the bobcats last night
And I wouldnt be worried about him going to another elite team in the east, all that would do is destroy that teams chemistry and make them worse...If the Magic/Cavs got rid of Delonte/Hedo or whomever...they'd be worse as far as im concerned

[Who]

I've been reading a lot of Amare Stoudemire trades over the past few days and I've yet to see one that makes sense for Phoenix. This is a young player (age 26) with many years ahead of him, they can rebuild with him. They don't need to dump him off like teams do with older veterans.
 
Phoenix shouldn't trade Amare without getting an All-NBA level talent in return.

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

I've been reading a lot of Amare Stoudemire trades over the past few days and I've yet to see one that makes sense for Phoenix. This is a young player (age 26) with many years ahead of him, they can rebuild with him. They don't need to dump him off like teams do with older veterans.
 
Phoenix shouldn't trade Amare without getting an All-NBA level talent in return.

Why? is he really All-NBA? hes been exposed time and time again, hes a revolving door on defense, maybe one of the only players in the NBA with a lower BBall IQ than our own Tony Allen, not a good rebounder or passer and the listgoes on.
As far as im concerned he couldnt carry Al jeffersons jock and its a shame hes starting over him in the all-star game

[jackson_34]

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the_Bird and Bank Shot beat me to it. ...
I think the Detroit trade makes the most sense for both teams.  I don't see the Miami trade happening (b/c PHX won't take back Marion), nor does PHX get enough back in either the Cleveland or Orlando trades.  Plus, I don't really see the upside for Orlando - they lose a unique long range shooting big in Hedo who complements Howard for a player with more or less the same skillset as Howard.  

The Cleveland trade would be the scariest IMHO, but thankfully it is unlikely b/c I don't think Cleveland has anymore draft picks to trade and there would have to be at least 2 1st rounders included to pull off such a trade.

See The Cleveland trade doesn't scare me at all. Watching scal (backed by the c's help D) get the better of stoudamire on defense really lowered the respect I have for him as a superstar player. I think Cleveland would lose alot more trading away Varejao than what they would gain with Amare and Barbosa. Varejao draws fouls, is a fantastic offensive rebounder and hustles on every play.  Throw in Delonte who can play some perimeter D and I believe Cleveland ruin their defensive chemistry.

[RebusRankin]

I don't see why Phoenix wants to trade him? Is Kerr the new Isaiah?

[the_Bird]

As talented as he is (he COULD be all-NBA if he had any BBIQ), it's the lack of D.  Kerr's being very active in getting rid of the guys that don't put forth the effort on that end.  The teams that win it all - our beloved C's being the most recent example - are the teams that excel on the defensive end. 

Makes you wonder, though.....    what does he think about Steve Nash? 

If you REALLY want to blow up the team and start over with a defensive mindset, who do you trade first?  Amare, who's 26 and has at least the POTENTIAL to be a good defender (if he matures, gets a Thibideau-like coach working with him, etc.)...  or the aging PG who can't defend the proverbial chair and who will likely be gone anyway by the time the rest of the roster is figured out?  How much could you get for Steve Nash?  I mean, he IS the face of the franchise, I can't imagine them actually trading him...   but why not?  Phoenix is done, Kerr's cleaning house, Nash is getting old and can't defend at all...  AND he's got a lot of trade value. 

Could you imagine Nash in LA?  What would the Lakers give up to have an *elite* PG next to Kobe for the next few years?